Quick hits: Gardner’s season may be over

BostonHere are the early notes as the Yankees (79-68) and Red Sox (89-59) get set to kick off a three-game weekend series here at Fenway Park.

Hiroki Kuroda (11-10, 2.99) has the ball for the Yankees, and John Lackey (9-12, 3.48) goes for Boston. It was raining here this afternoon, but the tarp is off the field and we should start on time. Temperatures are right around 70 degrees, dropping as the night goes on.

  • Bad news, if not completely unexpected, for Brett Gardner. Gardner has been diagnosed with a Grade 1 strain of his left oblique, and as you know, obliques are a tricky injury to figure out. Joe Girardi acknowledged that it is possible Gardner has played his last regular season game. There is some hope that Gardner could return as a pinch-runner before he can be a full player, but that depends on how this all heals. Girardi said that he wouldn’t expect to have Gardner back for the upcoming Blue Jays series, but he could be back for the playoffs if the Yankees get that far.
  • Curtis Granderson is taking over for Gardner in center field, and he’s hitting leadoff tonight. Girardi said that he can move that around as the weekend goes on, but Granderson has had the flexibility to hit in seven different lineup spots this season so it’s not really anything new. Granderson has homered in two straight games, sending rockets out to Eutaw Street in Baltimore the last two nights.
  • Austin Romine took some swings today and felt OK, but they’ll be very cautious bringing him back from a concussion. It’s possible Romine won’t be available to play all weekend.
  • Boone Logan may have turned a corner in his rehab of a left elbow injury, as Girardi said that Logan felt better and wants to try playing catch again. It didn’t go well yesterday, as Logan said he shut down the session after about five tosses.
  • Alex Rodriguez is scheduled to play third base tomorrow. He’s DHing tonight. Girardi said that once he gets A-Rod back to third base, he could go either way with Eduardo Nunez or Brendan Ryan at shortstop.
  • Who’s closing tonight? That’s a “great question,” Girardi said. It won’t be Mariano Rivera or David Robertson, apparently, though I guess you can never say that for sure. Rivera has pitched in four of the Yanks’ last five games but didn’t rule out campaigning to pitch if needed. 
  • Girardi on the Baltimore scorer’s decision to credit Rivera with a win instead of a save last night: “I’d like to see him get a save, but when I woke up this morning, it didn’t change my life.”

My Beat The Streak picks today: Doubling down with Ichiro Suzuki (33-for-110 vs. Lackey) and Lyle Overbay (11-for-30 vs. Lackey). The streak is at zero, and you know what? I’m beginning to think that a run at Joe D. isn’t happening. There’s always 2014.

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I was replying to meister not Seek.

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GO YANKEES CUZ

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I returned the favor, banned you but wait goooooooooooooo Yankees

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bozo still holds the all-time record, back to the red sox board with you!!!!

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Yet, bpuker still holds the all-time record for being banned. Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy to gooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

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Where you been at? Lincecum is as wayward as AJ Burnett..clown

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bpuke,

Wassa matter? Another of your bogus ID’s get banned? Your record for getting continues intact Slappy!!!!!!!!

I’m sorry no one wants your Daddy Clemens on their roster!!!!

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it’s finally over. We’ve been hanging on, hoping, but realistically knowing we weren’t going to make it. It’s been a very disappointing year for yankee fans. We can only hope for something better next season.

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Yankees have to sweep this series to even stay in mathematically. Can’t happen. Rays have too good a team and they’ve been winning down the stretch. Best we can do is finish this year off and start planning right away for next year. Hopefully Cashman and the suits have a plan. Not happy Yankee fans to miss the playoffs. Lots of excuses as to why this season went off the rails. But a lot of it had to do with salary cap and one year contracts with old veterans. Injuries played a big part too but when you’ve got so many players over 35 then that’s what happens. We have to get younger even if it means missing the playoffs for a couple of years.

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I agree yankeecanada that this team has to get younger. But do you trust those IDIOTS in the minor league to develop young players? This franchise needs an enema in its management top to bottom. I don’t think George’s Boys have a clue and Cashman has made more mistakes then the Third Reich did in Eastern Europe (yeah I teach History). Sorry the only way this franchise turns it around is a total enema at the management level. This year was predictable in 2009. They kept BAD pitchers and BAD players. This year’s lot NEEDS to be turned out. I’m figure 2017 before this team gets serious. At least one thing we will NOT see the likes of Homer Hughes and Trampoline Joba again, both of which should have been traded in 2009.

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Both Jacoby and Tim are not the players they once were, but both will likely be priced out of the Yankees budget. If any major money is spent this Winter it will probably be on the middle infield.

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Robert,

I completely agree with on Lincecum,he isn’t the same player he once, like I said before he won’t throw 96mph on a consistent basis, but his mediocre numbers from this year and the past couple of years may help keep his contract demands from being inflated. Don’t quite agree with you about Ellsbury, he’s hitting .299 with 8 HR’s 52 RBI’s (both numbers comparable to Gardner’s) except it took him fewer games to do it plus he has 52 SB’s, statistically he is fine, those numbers are more in line with what he has done in his previous seasons so he is playing at the same level he has always played at.

Also don’t see this team spending major money on a middle infielder. I see this team being outbid for Cano’s services by a team willing to spend the money on a big contract. As usual I see this team going after a cheaper and easier alternative.

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Doubt he’ll see another year like 2011 again, Matt. But he does hit for better average, more power. and knows how to steal bases!

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Again, I agree, 2011was most likely a fluke

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You win with Pitching and this team’s pitching is in disarray. Next year I think the locks are Nova, CC (not that I want him but who are the Yankees going to trade him for?) Phelps in the starting rotation. In early July I would have put Kuroda in that bunch but after his performance from the All Star game until now I don’t see resigning him (aging pitcher who is either hurt or has run out of gas). Middle relief is anyone guess, I’m thinking Robertson is a lock for something and maybe Huff. After that it’s anyone’s guess. I mean to say the least the Yankee farm system is a JOKE in pitcher development. Fact is if George was here there would be a blood letting in the farm system. One thing better be for sure, neither Homer Hughes or Trampoline Joba better be on this roster next year.

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Well I noticed CC is out for the year. Let’s just get his year over with. Probably going to be saying that for the next few years at the end of each season.

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Hey leave out the C word if you don’t mind – there’s not many places that’s a viable adjective & this isn’t one of them.

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He’s not a good team mate. Lester, Ellsbury, Pedroia = “Cannot play with ’em. Cannot coach with ’em. Cannot win with ’em. Can’t do it!” Singletary declared.

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Uhhh-ohhhhh, sounds like bpuke has managed to find his way back onto this board again, bad news for the Yankee fanbase, and this board.

Obviously, you haven’t seen Lincecum pitch.

Pettitte fabulous? You obviously didn’t see him pitch this season either!! Same ol’ bpuke.

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I wouldn’t touch Ellsbury with a pole – he’s made of glass unless you’ve forgotten that. Lincecum will likely stay with the Giants, McCann we could go after but he’ll be looking for 4-5 years which I doubt the Yankees would be willing to go to. Good news is we’ll be losing Granderson barring him accepting a 1 year deal to prove he’s healthy – pretty much anyone playing CF will have less K’s than him. The whole “under $189m” thing really hinges on the outcome of Arod’s appeal – if he gets off we’re screwed, if he gets a season long ban we should be good. Key to our offseason though is resigning Cano, sure his lack of hustle irks, but lets be fair he’s consistent, healthy & if we can get him on a contract which isn’t crazy, we’re laughing, if we don’t get him resigned, we’re humped.

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Lincecum has already let the Giants know that isn’t interested in any qualifying offers from the Giants so he is good as gone he would most likely get a better offer from another team. Like I said, he may not throw 96 mph again on a consistent basis, but then again he doesn’t have to he still has shown more than enough to be considered a quality pitcher as his no-hitter proved this year, plus he has proven in the past that he can pitch against AL teams. Besides, the Giants are more interested in going after Pence to help their mediocre offense.

McCann would be a good fit, he is in the prime of his career and not an old, injury prone player that already is filling the Yankee roster so a 4-5 year deal would not be that unreasonable especially since there is no real alternative on the FA market and no real answer coming up through a pathetic minor league system. But the Yanks would be getting themselves in bidding wars for both players.

Cano would most likely cost this team another long term contract, don’t need to be overpaying and sticking ourselves with another one of those.

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I would rather have Ellsbury than Gardner at the top of this lineup. Grdner has become a very fragile player himself, plus he is a limited offensive player. At least Ellsbury has proven he can generate more offense.

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mickeyyogi: Agree but word all year is that the Yankees don`t have the prospects in the system that are ready. We brought up Cervelli. That hasn`t worked well. Injury prone. We brought up Romine and he`s been injured. Nunez has had issues defensively. David Adams didn`t seem to be ready either. We are not well stocked at the prospect level unless we can trade veterans for prospects but who do we have to trade. Perhaps a combination of good prospects and veteran free agents or trades would be the ideal. How well Cashman can mix and match within the salary cap is the challenge, ie. if Cashman is still around.

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Andy P. and Mo———what a great tandem. Andy pitched great again today. He hasn’t had a bad outing in his last 8. Mo, finding the fountain of youth in his mid-40’s as he goes back to his days when two innings were needed. The rest of the team—–not very good today. I have no idea where to start in the offseason. This year was band-aids and patches. It may be time to develop players similar to the core four from within. Big money free agents are all about paying for the past, not the future.

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Good old Granderson lives up to his MO. Another 3 strikeouts today. I repeat, “don’t bring Granderson back”. But a lot of other guys shouldn’t be back either. With this loss today the Yankees are all but out of it. Cleveland had the easiest schedule in the last 12 games of the season and has taken advantage of it. The sweep by the Red Sox killed the Yankee’s chances. They were only 1 game out when they went into that series. So it’s on to next year and the prospects don’t look a lot better. Yankee fans better get used to a few years of retooling and rebuilding.

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The yanks should give serious consideration in going after Lincecum. He may never throw 96mph on a consistent basis like he used to,but there is more than enough there to give him a shot, at this stage he is better than CC or anyone else the Yanks currently have on their staff and is far better than what they have in their minor league system. Yanks should also go after a guy like Brian McCann since they have no catcher and Jacoby Ellsbury to give this team an offensive spark at the top of the lineup, God knows this team desperately needs one of those. I have doubts they will end up with any of those players since they would end up Ina bidding war for them.

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I actually expect the Yankees to try to get creative, trade Sabathia for another bad contract in the California area.

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Andy Pettitte is one of the greatest pitcher ever to don pinstripes according to Tim Kirjian of ESPN, I agree. Forget the trash you hear on this board. He is a Yankees legend. We love him, same as Mo, Jeter, Posman and Bernie. Next year we have no rotation, we will be looking for Cliff Lee’s and King Felix through trade, we will get who we get. Sabathia will be gone and we will be fighting for a Wild Card again. Cano will re-sign, Ro id-Rod will be killed Vernon Forrest style while picking up trannies in Atlanta. Ask Matt from weserious.com

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Andy, Mo, Jeter, Kuroda and Itchy have had their day! All have been showing their age a bit more each year add to that a bunch of injuries and one has the of a AAAA team.
With the subtraction of Andy, Kuroda, MO, Itchy, Jeter, Wells…hell, everyone except; Brett, Cano, Nunes, Zoilo, Tex, Granderson, Cisco, Romine, Nova, D. Robertson, B. Logan, D. Huff, S. Kelley, Claiborne, Phelps, C.C., and Warren they will have a much less talented team but a younger one.
If the team is in for a rebuilding 2-5 years…play those kids we have all ready! They can’t be any worse than Wells, Andy, Stewart and etc.

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good comments.

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Unfortunately, we already know what we are getting with a lot of that youth, especially since some of them are just retreads or just average players overall.

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If I were yankee management I wouldn’t bring Granderson back next season. He strikes out way too many times and he hasn’t shown the pop in his bat this year like he did last. Nice guy and does a lot in the community and a good player in his day. I know he’s been out with injuries but he’s been back a while now and he is consistently an out or a strike out. He is one of many I wouldn’t bring back another year. A few they’re stuck with because of long term contracts but the only position players I would consider keeping are Soriano as DH and Gardner and Jeter if he is healthy and able to play regularly. I think Suzuki has had his day too. He did well for us last year but has dropped off this year. All the rest of the position players I would rate as expendable if you can get an upgrade for them or let them go. It will require a total rebuild. Obviously most of the players are going to be acquired through free agency or trade. We don’t have many in our system ready to take the step to the majors.And of course the decision regarding the salary cap will make a lot of difference as to the kind of team gets put on the field in 2014.

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One guy I will miss next year is #46 Andy P. Thanks Andy.

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I just gotta wonder who these guys will turn to after they are gone next year. Not getting my hopes up considering how poorly this team has done when it comes to signing free agents and nothing coming out of the Yankee farm system for years.

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You won’t have to wonder for much longer. It will be Warren, Nova, Phelps, Pineda and they will go hard for a starter LIKE but not Lee and Felix.

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Based on how poorly this organization has done in developing its minor league talent, I hope to God it won’t come down to those guys. Warren and Phelps don’t have the stuff to be staff aces, but rather nothing more than No.4’s and 5’s at best or long relievers. Pineda suffered a major setback this year when the organization had to shut him down near the end of the season with a bum shoulder, and the organization didn’t think that he had come far enough to even call him up, at this point he is still an injury prone player. Pineda is going to have a great spring training to make the roster next year, I doubt this team pushes him that hard though.

This team will need at LEAST two good starters to make it competitive for a shot at a wild card. I doubt this gets that when it’ trying to shrink payroll ang an incompetent GM at the helm of this organization.

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Hey yank. Looks like the Jays are going to win this series which was a must win for the Yankees. I was in the listening to the game on the way home. It was 3-1 Jays. I come in the house and turn on the TV and it’s 6-1. And I had heard in the car that they were bringing in Joba. And I said “Oh no, you’re kidding, right?” I assume it was Joba that gave up the 3 runs. What the hell is Girardi thinking? This was a must win game. You bring in Joba in a tight game in the later innings? You’ve got to be kidding. How many times are the Yankees going to pitch Joba and Hughes before they decide it’s time for them to move on. I would hope neither of them would still be with the Yankees at the start of next season. This team has no offense and the pitching which has been strong earlier in the year is falling apart. They’ve got to win every game from hereon in to get the second wild card spot? Will never do it with this team. They’re done like dinner and they’ve been done for quite a while. When you only have Wells and Overbay to turn to on the bench what does it say about this team? A lot of these guys can’t be on this team next year.

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Yes yankeecanada STUPID JOE brought in Joba. WHY???????? I posted three months ago that neither Joba or Hughes should EVER take the mound again for the Yankees. IF either of these two BUSTS are with the Yankees next year then I will refrain from cheering for them. These two BUSTS are both LOSERS. Have been for three years and Joe keeps bringing them in. Again WHY???? And remember yankeecanada you and I were on these two BUSTS three years ago while others on this blog told us we were wrong. Yeah we were wrong. Too damn bad Cashman didn’t listen to us. There are winners and losers in this game. Homer Hughes and Trampoline Joba are LOSERS. And no matter were they pitch next year they will be LOSERS. Sign with the Cubs you BUMS!!!

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Tell me why I’m still watching this team? They can’t score runs. The pitching is crap. It’s a mess. There is no way in hell this team with get into the playoffs. They have men on base with no outs and Reynolds hits into a double play. They don’t even look like they’re trying to win anymore. They’re a dispirited and beaten team. It shows in their play. No intensity. No fire. Even Cano looks lost. Management is going to have to totally revamp this team from top to bottom. Wells, overbay, Suzuki, hafner, nunez, stewart,Reynolds, gone. ARod suspended for the year. Jeter is questionable as to whether he will retire or be able to come back for one more year. Hughes, Joba, gone. Mo retired. Andy won’t be back. Will they be able to sign Cano without breaking the bank and getting into a 10 year contract? A lot of holes to fill via free agent market, or trades, or prospects. May have to finish out of the playoffs for a few years to develop some of the young prospects. This has been a frustrating and disappointing year for Yankee fans. Cashman and the two or three suits have to take a lot of the blame.

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At least they aren’t the Jays, baseball’s biggest busts by far after signing all those big name FA’s.

Once again, it doesn’t look like I’ll be eating crow this year.

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Not sure I’d resign Kuroda either. Guy was great for the first few months BUT the last 6 weeks he’s been Hughes like without the HRs. Guy is an aging pitcher exactly what the Yankees do NOT need.

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Never were enough bullets this year. Then when it looked like things might turn around, the injury bug hit again and the pitching went south. I still hope and listen, but I’m realistic——when your pitching ace is 41 and the other best pitcher is 43, it just doesn’t equal a contender.

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Especially when you have Homerun Hughes pitching. Way to go Homer Hughes, pitch your usual 3 innings then here comes the HRs. NOTE to Girardi START anyone in Hughes place next time. Joe, Homer Hughes and Tampoline Joba are JOKES, STOP EXPECTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

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Have you ever seen a team so weak at the plate? Bases loaded and can’t get any runs in. The Yankees have never been able to hit a knuckleballer. Wakefield used to beat them all the time. No excuses. They have to slow the swing down and not swing at pitches way out of the strike zone. Granderson looks terrible up there. Yankees just got swept by the Sox. If they don’t win this series against the Jays it’s essentially all over. The Indians have the easiest schedule the rest of the way. Seems like we’re just going through the motions here tonight. Fortunately Dickey’s pitch count is way up so the Yankees can only hope to get a few runs off the pen.

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Well yankeecanada put another one in the LOSS column tonight, Hughes is starting. Hope this is the last time we see him starting for the Yankees.

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how do you look forward to making playoffs with that collection of rag arms?

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what more can we yankee fans say? It’s all been said. This is a disaster. Sure there have been injuries but you have to expect injuries with 40 year old players. And once the team starts losing it affects the whole team, offense and defense. Enough blame to go around. The team is a mess, top to bottom and only because of the poor play of the Rays lately are we even in the hunt. Embarrassment to be swept by the Sox and in the way they were. Where’s the pride here? A lot of work to do in the off season to get this team respectable again and with the contracts already signed for Teixiera and CC and ARod not a lot of extra money. Don’t think we can expect too much better next year.

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the Yankees really have to win this game tonight and they have to win the remaining series to have a chance. Cleveland might be the dark horse in the race because they have such an easy schedule the rest of the way, playing poorer teams, while the AL East teams beat up on each other. Starting pitching has got to excel the rest of the way to give us a chance because we’re missing some key position players and the bull pen has been less than stellar. Getting Phelps back will help to give the other pitchers in the pen a rest. It would have to be a miracle for the Yankees to sneak into the playoffs. Biggest question is what they’re going to do in the off season and how much money they have to spend under the self imposed cap.

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This is the WORSE Yankee team since 1995 under Buck Showalter. This team is an embarassment to Yankee fans and a total enema is needed for this roster. The Three Stooges who are running this show need to take a look in mirror. Hal. Hank and Brian you three are totally responsible for this disgraceful season. And make no mistake Stooges Yankee fans know that.

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1990 Stick Michael took over as the GM for the Yanks. He hired Showalter in 1992 -1995 Showalter and promoted Cashman to asst. to the GM.
Stick, and showalter (Both of whom are noted as two of the best player evaluators. When Joe T arrived in 1996, all he had to do was copy the line-up for the same players game after game!
After 1996 Cashman had to fight the Tampa Cabal to get things done. Now it is the Tampa Cabal and Dumb and Dumber. We have two bookkeepers and a horse farmer thinking they know more than those that have done the job and done it well.

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The three are Hal, Hank and Randy…Cashman is just working with what they give him the money for.

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Pettitte is the only pitcher I trust right now, even Kuroda has lost it. Trot out Pineda.

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That Sabathia guy has a huge contract but he is no Mike Mussina who made much less in his career. We are stuck with Sabathia unless we can trade bad contracts. I bet Cashman looks into this.

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They can no longer hide the fact they are where they are because of smoke and mirrors.

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CC Sabathia NEEDS to take a good look at himself in the offseason. Regardless of the injuries that the Yankees have had, Sabathia has NOT been injured. His performance this year is absolutely BAD and he is the main reason along with Hughes for why the Yankees are in the situation they are in. I am tired of the tired arm, overweigh excuses. Sabathia ought to paid back 1/2 his salary this season.

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The entire pitching rotation is pretty much to blame for this terrible season. CC’s skills have obviously slipped, he obviously is another big contract this team will have to carry for an extended period of time, you’re right Kuroda is an aging pitcher and his age is catching up to him, Hughes and Pettitte are guaranteed losses for this team when they take the mound, with any luck they will both be gone along with Joba. They team’s lineup has gone from overaged scrubs who most likely wouldn’t be starters on most other teams to looking like a minor league lineup. White flag time coming up soon!!!!

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Have news for you yankmeister I raised that white flag a long time ago. From the start of the season this was a team in trouble. This totally falls on the shoulders of the owners and Cashman. As I have posted many times it will take a long, long time to get out of this wilderness and I’m NOT sure that Cashman nor these two spoiled sons have a clue on how to get out of this mess, that they created.

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Seek nay,

I don’t think anyone was excited about this team when they saw the roster at the start of this season. Who could it was made up of scrubs and guys who were well past their prime. You’re right this team will be going through years of rebuilding, especially when you see how many holes this team needs to fill like, C, 3B,SS, 1B, LF,CF, RF, plus putting together another starting rotation and looking for a new closer. With that being said I think they will try to hang on to someone like Cano, unfortunately I think it will require signing him to a big contract. I think they will hold on to Robertson for the closer role, and Soriano who is nothing but a DH at this point in his career and a major strikeout machine.

Not likely there will be an answer coming up from a mediocre minor league system for years. With incompetents like Oppenheimer, and Crashman leading this organization, this team is headed for years of darkness.

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This team really won’t miss him just as it didn’t miss him last season when they made the playoffs. He is far from a difference maker, never has been in his career. His OBP for a leadoff hitter is OK, but that’s all it is, doesn’t help that he strikes out way too much as well. Does he improve this offense or make this a better team? NOPE!!!! ATbest he is fourth OFer who is expendable.

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I’m NOT sure that the Yankees resign Kuroda next season. He is an aging pitcher who frankly has run out of gas the past 6 weeks. Additionally, tonight proved that Claiborne and Cabral are NOT ready for primetime. Nothing new for the Yankees ROTTEN minor league system.

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I have heard that same BS about Brett as far as his 2006 days in Tampa. I had followed him from then on. He has done nothing but make every team he has played on…better! It is no trick of eyesight that shows With Brett out of the line-up…the team has been scoring less runs per game on the avg. Brett was the leading CLUTCH HITTER on the team and the best defensive OF in the league from call-up to 2013.
What you wrote above, is what was said/written of Brett, when he first came up! There were very few of us that had seen him play and knew he would be a plus for the team! I think perhaps you may want to use your mind and not believe all one reads as the real truth, most writers slant their stores to fit the way they think, not lying but not writing the truth either!

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Gardner a spark plug? Not really.

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not good news about Gardner. He has been one of the spark plugs in the Yankee lineup this year. Will miss his speed on the bases and he’s had some timely hitting this year with guys on base. What more could go wrong with the Yankees? The team has certainly had a lot of hurdles to get over this year. It’s a wonder they’re still in contention for a wild card spot.

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Who cares if getting Lincecum will cost this team a 1st Rd pick. This team has done nothing but draft poorly for years, it would be a better move to go after Lincecum than draft another bust.

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GREAT the Yankees lose tonight and the year is done. And who do the Yankees send to the mound, Phil F ing Hughes. Speaks volumes.

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If you want to keep dissed in shots fired, we won’t ban you. If you want to talk Yankees that’s ok but don’t sign up as Kramer.

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Further proof bpuker is losing it as he continues to talk to himself.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

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