Game 72: Yankees at Reds

YANKEES (42-29)
Brett Gardner LF
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Russell Martin C
Ramiro Pena SS
Brian Gordon RHP

Pitching: RHP Brian Gordon (0-0, 3.38 ERA)

REDS (38-36)
Drew Stubbs CF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Joey Votta 1B
Jay Bruce RF
Scott Rolen 3B
Jonny Gomes LF
Ramon Hernandez C
Paul Janish SS
Johnny Cueto RHP

Pitching: RHP Johnny Cueto (4-2, 1.68 ERA)

Yankees notes

TAKEAWAY: At 19-12 (.613) away from home, the Yankees own the best road record in the Majors…Yankees pitchers own the Majors’ second-lowest road ERA (3.15 in 280.0IP with 98ER)…have allowed 0.71HR/game on the road, the second-best mark in the AL (Seattle-0.70) and the fifth-best mark in the Majors…Yankees batters lead the Majors with 5.45 runs scored per road game, 1.39 HR per road game, a .346 road OBP and a .445 road SLG.

Are 9-2 in their last 11 road games dating to 5/29, allowing a .221 opp. batting avg and a Major League-best 2.32 team ERA (25ER, 97.0IP) on the road over the span.

RECENT RUN: The Yankees have won nine of their last 11 games (since 6/10), averaging 6.45 runs and 10.91 hits per game with a .320 (120-for-375) team batting average and .407 team on-base percentage over the stretch.

During the Yankees’ last 11 games, LF Brett Gardner is batting a Major League-best .472 (17-for-36) with 8R, 5 doubles, 1 triple, 1HR, 4RBI and 4BB.

CA-NOTEWORTHY: 2B Robinson Cano has the Yankees’ longest active hitting streak, having hit safely in his last nine games since 6/12…is batting .395 (15-for-38) with 9R, 3 doubles, 2HR and 7RBI over the stretch…is currently batting .295 (81-for-275) this season, his highest mark since he was batting .300 at the close of play on 5/7.

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I didn’t say Flores has a 5.00 ERA but rather “near” or “almost” 5.00 ERA. I also didn’t say his career against lefties was .290 for his career but rather .290 since ’07. He does have a 3.8 BB/9 for his career, not very good. Sorry for any of the misunderstanding, but when you consider he hasn’t pitched a large number of innings he was obviously going to have to start the season out in the minors. But for me if KAzmir or Flores or anyone else isn’t going to be a good option I would either go with Betances or Banuelos who are both future starters as options out of the BP. They aren’t lefthanded but they don’t have to be.

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Greg Smith …sorry..spelled wrong…lol

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Meister…just so your clear on this because the stats are readily available and I’ve looked at pitchers stats and have even studied them….Flores lifetime ERA is exactly 4.61…(not 5)…also his lifetime vs lefties is .275 (not .290), if you need links I can give it too you?….His biggest asset is he doesn’t walk people, ave of 1 walk per 10 INN of work!! I do agree with you on some of the things you posted, like maybe grabbing Kaz and working with him even if it takes 2 years, but you threw his name out like he was going to be the bridge between right now getting a lefty and getting feliciano or marte back (better chance with feliciano then marte)…Steve Garrison is another option, hes like 25 yrs old in AA but his stats are really bad, he makes Flores stats look good…heres what I think (and I may be wrong), but Girardi seems to lean towards call ups that can go 3-4 innings or longer, (ie: long relievers) because he is more worried about the starter sucking and only going 3 innings…thats why we see Marquez and Carlisle, etc…some teams I see, have 3 lefties in their bullpens. Is it absolutely a dire need?, no.. but I do agree that we should have the best 7 pitchers behind the starter and the optimum situation would be 2 lefties.thats what I kind of object to..Maybe one will be come available…we will see…

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Buddy Carlisle’s lifetime ERA is 5.53!!!!…..Meister…what do you think???

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How about Buddy Carlisle (right handed) who they called up today. Marquez has a sore shoulder…You “all in” on him over Flores also…sheesh…….Also, are you really a yankee fan and do you watch the games???…Hey , I’d like them to get a good lefty also, but lets face…THERE ARE NONE JOSE!!!!…thats why a pitcher like FLORES is in the discussion with the yankees…Thats why there are articles in the new york papers about possibly bringing him up….it doesn’t have anything to do with career stats(obviously…check Carlisle)…its that he is a lefty….I know its ashame but good lefty relievers are hard to get….

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Like I said before, I agree with the writer of that article wholeheartedly. If there is no option as a lefty specialist then bring in a top arm regardless of whether he is a lefty or righty as long as he can produce positive results then it won’t matter. Who said it had to be a lefty specialist that they needed to bring up?

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Greg Smit a 27 year old lefty picked up by the Yanks about 3 weeks ago just pitched another beauty today after his 1 hit shutout last week for AAA Scranton. He has pitched in the Majors before…I’ll see if I can get the splits on him at the Major League level….he could be an option….Yanks are light on lefties in the minors though….

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I bet you’re all in on Carlisle. He seems to be your type of pitcher. Posts terrible numbers at the major league level but good ones in the minors just like Flores. Bet you’re about as excited as you can get about that fact bpark.

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When did I even say Kazmir should be up in the majors at this time? I never said that so stop putting words in my mouth!!!! Of course he will never be called up with numbers like those, a team would be insane. It’s not surprising that his stats are bloated like they are at this time since he hasn’t had any real work since September of last season. Again, who cares what Flores has done in the minors we are talking about the majors. It’s even sillier for a poster to think that a pitcher wh has been ripped for a .295 Ba by lefties since ’07 and has an ERA near 5.00 for his career is even an upgrade over anyone at this time.

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Meister….please calm down…his ERA is not 5…his ERA is 1.46 at SCRANTON…it is not 2007 anymore …its 2011…thats all…try to relax….and as far as the yanks grabbing Kazmir…..you said get him instead of bringing up Flores….thats what you said….read what you posted….I would like to see them get Kaz and try to work with him down in tampa and maybe break down whats wrong….maybe do some tests to see what has gone so terribly wrong the last 2 years….relax buddy…(not Carlisle…please!!!)

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bpark,

Do you know baseball at all? ‘Cause you sure don’t know how to read stats!!!! As of last season Flores’s career ERA is 4.61, that’s close to a 5.00 ERA, just to let you know. How simple does it have to get? This isn’t the minors we are talking about, it’s the major leagues so once again who the heck cares how he has done in the minors. It’s what he has done in the majors that counts!!!! Besides Flores has had good seasons in the minor leagues before and that success has never translated to success at the major league level.

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Jeeeeez!!!!! IF you’re going to try and use people’s words against them at least get it right. This is what I originally said about Kazmir:

Yanks should really give some thought to signing Kazmir. I know he has been horrible since last season, but Yanks should give him another shot and try to build his arm back up again by starting him in the minors, and depending how well he does they could use him for the rotation or BP. He most likely would be best lefty option. Can’t stand the thought of Flores getting the call up, a relief pitcher with a career ERA near 5.00 and who is horrible against righties and mediocre against lefties has no business being in any team’s BP.
By yankmeister on June 20, 2011 5:12 pm – Reply

I never said anything about ising him as a starter or in the bullpen at this point as he hasn’t had a sufficient workload in a while. There is no way he should be in the majors right now, but if it turns out that he can succeed then he would be a better option.

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“I also forgot to mention since 2007 lefties have hit .290 off of Flores and they also have a .470 slugging percentage off him. So his troubles to get lefties out have been long lasting. Further proof the Yanks need to go out and get Kazmir.”

Nobody is putting words in your mouth…thats exactly what you said….No to Flores and yes to (17.02) Kazmir!!!

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Hmmmmmm, I also seem to remember you posting in agreement with me on the Kazmir.

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD 6/22/2011
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Norfolk (Orioles) @ SCRANTON/WB 7:05 PM
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TRENTON @ Portland (Red Sox) 7:00 PM
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Clearwater (Phillies) @ TAMPA 7:00 PM
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STATEN ISLAND @ Hudson Valley (Rays) 6:35 PM
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GCL Blue Jays @ GCL YANKEES 10:00 AM

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD 6/21/2011
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Norfolk (Orioles) 8 @ SCRANTON/WB 1
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TRENTON 5 @ Portland (Red Sox) 13
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TAMPA 11 @ Clearwater (Phillies) 9
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Hudson Valley (Rays) 0 @ STATEN ISLAND 1 (12)
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GCL YANKEES 3 @ GCL Braves 2
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A version of this with BOX links is available directly. Please E-mail a request to me as below.
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Flores lifetime in the majors lefties have hit .275 off of him….again we are not looking for an 8th inn set up guy just someone to come in and get a lefty or 2 out in the 5th or 6th inning….your making it sound like hes going to come in before Mo or something, just insurance, mop up, a lefty here and there…again last year in the MAJORS with Colorado his ERA was 2.96, evidently they used him in the right spots. Make the other manager pinch hit and give Girardi another lefty for Gods sake….Big deal….hes the 10th arm or something… thats all!!! Kazmir is a project and will never pitch in the majors this year, may even be hurt with those crazy stats….pass…

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I’ve got a feeling someone better will be available in July!

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IT doesn’t matter what role he would come in. The fact is he has struggled since ’07 as lefties have hit .290 against him, he’s no less of a risk to use than Logan. Also, quit picking INDVIDUAL years in which he may have done well in. One game or one season does NOT define a player. Try looking at the whole picture and give the facts as complete as possible. You make it sound like the Cards made it to the WS because of him when in fact nothing could be further from the truth when his ERA for the season was over 5.00. Yeah look how far back in time you have to go when he was nothing more than a middle innings pitcher and now he is nothing but a lefty specialist. That fact speaks volumes. The plain fact is he ISN’T an upgrade period.

However, with literally no real lefty options, I do strongly agree with the writer that this team has to give the best arms a real shot regardless of whether he is a lefty or righty.

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I also forgot to mention since 2007 lefties have hit .290 off of Flores and they also have a .470 slugging percentage off him. So his troubles to get lefties out have been long lasting. Further proof the Yanks need to go out and get Kazmir.

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Hmmm. Kazmir hasn’t been able to get minor leaguers out this year. Curious choice!

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JEEEEEEEEEZZZZ!!!!!!! The love affair with mediocrity with certain posters on this board is just never ending.

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It’s not a love affair, Matt, just tolerance!

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Matt…Heres Kazmir latest stats from AAA Salt Lake…don’t know if you’ve seen them….Remember MINOR LEAGUES…like you say…..15 Innings..22 hits…30 RUNS!!!…20 walks…ERA 17.02!!!……Flores has a 1.46 ERA at Scranton, and 2.32 between Scranton and Tucson…..I think it looks silly when a poster says Randy Flores could not possibly be any good or at least get a shot at the 2nd left spot but someone that has a 17.02 ERA in AAA is?? I think we’d sign up for mediocrity in that event…sheez

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The writer of the article is insane if he thinks Flores is a better option than Logan. Please give me a break!!!!!! Yeah right the Twins loved him soooooooooo much last season, they cut him before he could throw 4 innings. Here’s what he did with Minnesota 3 2/3 IP 10 H’s 2 R’s. Oh, yeah there’s a lot to love there, and yet he has done nothing in the majors this year. Hmmmmmm, you think that’s why the Twins cut him? What an EMBARRASSMENT!!!!! FORGET what he has done in the minors this season. SO WHAT!!!!!!! The minors is just that the minors!!!! BIG DEAL!!!!!! The ONLY thing that matters is what he has done at the major league level, which
isn’t much to begin with. Apparaently Flores couldn’t get lefties out either as they hit about .298/.385/.509 last season, and .266 for his career. Lefties also had a slugging % of around .460. So far nothing to “love” about this guy. Logan hasn’t been good against lefties most of this season but at least he has still produced good overall numbers. I doubt you can say the same about Flores who has also given up a.306 BA to righties as well over his career. Apparently, there is nothing to love about this guy just ask the Twins and Cards.

The scary thing is, if this team doesn’t have a better option as a lefty than Flores, that’s a real scary thought this team could be in real trouble.

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Randy Flores pitched for 3 years with the Cards and has a World Series ring..he has appearances in 12 post season games and was real good also….last year with Colorado he was 2-0 with a 2.96 ERA…don’t just take the 3 innings he pitched with the Twins to make your point.
Granted he is not Marte or Feliciano but as you probably know its slim pickings with lefties, especially ones with good control…I’d like to see both Flores and Logan on the team…The author makes a good point, they are going to be up against a date on Flores when he can leave the organization, so he will be up. Please don’t tell me Marquez is one of your best 7 pitchers….I think I would give Flores a shot and if he is real bad, so be it, send him back down…..I don’t mind those commenting here being critical, but offer a solution to this Logan debacle, as Yankee fans we are holding our breaths when he comes in….BTW, lefties hitting .266 is really that bad??….Logan has them hitting .300….seems your making a point for Flores, aren’t you???

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Logan vs right handed batters lifetime…315 average….Flores .307…Logan .253 vs lefties…Flores .266 (as you say)
Your trying to make it sound like Logan is light years better than Flores…I don’t see it!!! Logan is a little better I’d concede but not much…
Do you have any other stats!!!…lol
Its fun to look at stats but baseball is not an exact science…an unexpected player with mediocre stats can suddenly get on a roll, especially a pitcher and get hot and start putting up plenty of zero’s, seen it time and again over the 50 years of watching Yankee baseball….I guess we have a tendency to forget the starter that came up about 4 years ago and went 10-0 down the stretch…he was mediocre throughout his career also…it happens…baseball is fickle in that regard….look at Noesi…think he’d be our 7th inning guy when the season started, he looks real good and gaining confidence every appearance!!!

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Yeah and you make it sound like Flores all that much of an upgrade over anyone, period. All those stats prove is that Flores is more of the same. Big deal!!!! I would rather take my chances with hard proven facts than take chances on “what ifs” as you just brought up. You may want to base your hopes on PAST HISTORY and catching lightening in a jug all you want, but as you say baseball isn’t an exact science which means we need to look at cold hard facts even more. WISHFUL THINKING ain’t going to get the job done.

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Boone Logan’s Roster Spot
By Mike Axisa
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/06/boone-logans-roster-spot-50842/

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Fan Confidence Poll: June 20th, 2011
By Mike Axisa
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/06/fan-confidence-poll-june-20th-2011-50743/

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD 6/21/2011
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Norfolk (Orioles) @ SCRANTON/WB 7:05 PM
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TRENTON @ Portland (Red Sox) 7:00 PM
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TAMPA @ Clearwater (Phillies) 7:00 PM
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Hudson Valley (Rays) @ STATEN ISLAND 7:00 PM
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GCL YANKEES 3 @ GCL Braves 2

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD 6/20/2011
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Norfolk (Orioles) 0 @ SCRANTON/WB 2
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TAMPA 10 @ Clearwater (Phillies) 3
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STATEN ISLAND 8 @ Hudson Valley (Rays) 3
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GCL Braves 5 @ GCL YANKEES 6
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Oops, does.

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Boone Logan sucks & so deos this new log in process!

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