Bits and pieces about left field

I answered a question about Xavier Nady in today’s Inbox as follows:

Why wouldn’t the Yankees look at Xavier Nady for left field? They
would get a right-handed bat with good power who can handle New York.
Is his injury still a factor or is he looking for more than the Yankees
want to pay?
– Pete N., Syracuse N.Y.

Right now, it appears the hold-up would be more financial than
physical. General manager Brian Cashman said on Monday that Nady’s
price is above the Yankees’ current budget, which explains why they
have not been seriously linked to him while some other clubs have.

Remembering that Scott Boras is Nady’s agent and we all know where that’s taking them in the Johnny Damon situation, it makes sense that the Yankees are playing the ‘not interested’ card. After all, you’re looking at a position player who is coming off his second Tommy John surgery. That’s a big question mark and if the dollar signs are large as well, it might not be a match.

So where are the Yankees going to head from here? It’s looking more and more like Mark DeRosa is off the table, taking a physical with the Giants, and I just don’t know if all that Jermaine Dye talk was serious.

So… Brett Gardner and Jamie Hoffman, eh? As of Dec. 28, that’s where it is. Stay tuned.

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I’m reading all this talk about playing “Stay-At-Home GM”, and the possibility of trading A-Rod anywhere is out of the question. Would he not fall under the 5/10 rule? 5 Years with the same club, 10 years in the league gives him the ability to veto any trade…and I don’t know, but I don’t see him accepting a trade to Pitts or Milwaukee, or any place like that! So when one blogger wrote “read: Impossible”, he wasn’t kidding.
Besides, the Yankees wouldn’t save much money by doing that…they’d have to pay a large chunk of his salary every year, without any production for their dollar. On top of that, how many teams can realistically take on A-Rod’s contract, in any capacity. Mets have Wright, Boston is a no-no on so many levels.

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i do hope everybody who thinks Arod will be good for the duration of his contract are correct…i would settle for that…but there is another issue…Is he earning his money…he made 27 mill in 2008 and 32 mill in 09…his numbers in those seasons are not so outstanding that he should have made so much money…but he was good and i hope he can at least be that for the duration of his contract…and as far as trading Arod is concerned…why wouldn’t you trade a player when his stock is high if you think that during his contract he will not be worth what he is due to be paid…it’s forsight…cutting your losses now and getting something in return while you still can…because if he goes thru some serious decline late in his career no team will want him even if the Yanks are willing to pay half of his contract…but some big market teams may be willing to take that chance right now…but it was all wild wanna be GM talk…i also thought that if the Yankees went to him and explained that because of the down economy and the fact that almost every team is having some sort of budget issues…they would like for him to restructure his contract…he might agree to this if he thought his contract was effecting the teams ability to address other needs…

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Interesting that some Yankee fans want to dump ARod after what he accomplished in 2009 when he was at 90% and didn’t play the full season. First I don’t think ARod would consider waving his no trade clause and even if he would with the large portion of his salary we would have to eat wouldn’t leave us enough $ left over to get a Matt Holliday caliber player. I see ARod playing 3B for another 4 years and then DH/backup for the remaining 2 or 3 years of his contract. I guess that means that he needs to be a productive hitter to the age of 39 which I believe is very possible given his skills.

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Interesting that some Yankee fans want to dump ARod after what he accomplished in 2009 when he was at 90% and didn’t play the full season. First I don’t think ARod would consider waving his no trade clause and even if he would with the large portion of his salary we would have to eat wouldn’t leave us enough $ left over to get a Matt Holliday caliber player. I see ARod playing 3B for another 4 years and then DH/backup for the remaining 2 or 3 years of his contract. I guess that means that he needs to be a productive hitter to the age of 39 which I believe is very possible given his skills.

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there’s always Scott posednik who is a left fielder, steals 30 plus bases and randy winn who can play left and is also a switch-hitter…good defense .992

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As soon as the Yankee Parade ended the Yankees should have set a plan in motion to get Alex Rodriguez to accept a restructured contract…so if he stays a yankee he at least becomes more affordable…
also they should have asked him to accept a trade…
how would they go about this…
the only way he might agree…is to be brutally honest with him…and in so doing maybe his EGO will be deflated and he may believe he needs a fresh start…
The Yankees could state a series of points…
#1:State the obvious: We made a mistake in signing you(Arod) for so many years and so much money and when we signed you the economy was better now our situation is different as is the rest of the league…
#2:They could state-Us being the most popular and prestiges team in sports who are persistant in our pursuit of great players and championships saw you, a multi MVP and the most likely canidate to break the Homerun record as a good marriage in terms of bringing World Series titles to our organization as well an increase in revenue…but we were naieve in signing you without some type of clause that nullified your HR bonuses if the HR record and the prestige and possibly the extra revenue that would be generated around the journey to that record were tainted and devauled.
#3:They could also state-that no team,not even in the earilier flurishing economy would have given you(Arod) a 275 mill contract let alone another 25 mill in HR bonuses especially at your free agent signing age of 32…#4They could also state-We believe you have lied to us or at least concealed information about your use of performance inhancing drugs and we believe that those drugs have been used during your time with the Yankees not just in Texas and those drugs elevated your numbers and therefore elevated your contract and extended the length beyond what we would have given if you were not on performance inhancing drugs…and you may still be on P.E.D.s and if any test is created while you are on the yankee proves you are using P.E.D.s while your in pursuit of the HR record…that discovery would further disparage this organization and the HR record…which was the major reason for the extrodinary dollar amount and length of your contract…#5:They could state-Based on all the factors previously mentioned and our need to lower ticket prices and that there is no clear forcast for when the economy will improve we have determined that keeping you especially at your current salary will inhibit us from addressing all the areas needed to put together a complete team…Like with LF this year and Matt Holliday…and if we are forced to keep you at your current salary for it’s full length we will have increased difficulty in winning championships…also we have other aging players who’s contracts are expiring that we would like to keep and other free agents possiblities we want to target to fill our needs…so we have decided to approach you…because your contract is the longest largest and the least vaule in terms of actual performance per dollar…epspecially since you have decreased vaule as the possible HR record holder…as a result of all these factors we have decided that you are the most expendable big ticket player…

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interesting…and these points are valid…but the point is to get rid of Arod…and get some young cheap talent…once that is done then the team can go in many different directions to improve the team…and i believe if they got some good players for him…then they could work something out somewhere…that would actually improve the team when they are…if not totally this year then definately…all of comming together next…at the same tim they could reduce payroll…

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Arod was the 5th best RH hitter in BB and did so coming off an injury. This season he might become the best hiiter in BB period. Keep him. Gardner needs a year to see if he be a .300 hitter(which I think he can), and you just have to quit looking for another big money Yankee deal. Joe Mauer is at the top of Brian Cashmans list-and that will not happen until next year when he becomes a FA. If Minn wants to trade him so they get something then that might expedite things-but that is the deal. There will be a team that falls out of contention soon enough next season if the Yankees need another bat, and ole Scott Boras will soon see the times have turned against his style of agency. The money is not there, and some teams will not even consider a player who takes on Boras as agent. I like that ploy myself-he inflates the market every year. The Yankees will watch Damon, Nady, and others suffer on teams with little chance of the postseason success theYankees will have, and realize what they have missed out on. The rotation is very good, relief has a chance to be awesome, the lineup against RHers is set, and there is RH power and LH bats waiting to explode because of that RF fence. Johnny Damon will rue the day he left the Yankees, and may see as much as a 25% decline in run production in another park without ARod and Teixiera to protect him like in the past. Melky was a below average run producer, and Gardner can equal what he did-and steal more bases and cover more ground. Many times he turned a walk into a double, and got the Yankees a gift run. These guys might repeat without another roster move.

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There are very few guys I wouldn’t consider giving up – Melancon wouldn’t even sniff the list. My main argument against your hypothetical was that it is next to impossible. Yes – Swisher plus Granderson probably equals more offensive output than Braun. But Braun, who still comes close to that offensive output (I think he can hit lefties pretty well) is a superior player to both Swisher and Granderson. Thus, you get better output than either individually and use only a single roster spot. Swisher’s defense in the OF is inconsistent and while Granderson is an above-average CF, packaging him with Swisher is not enough to get you Braun. Plus, I’m not sure that the Brewers would think either Swisher’s or Granderson’s contracts are manageable given their market (obviously, the Yanks can handle more than small market teams).

Tejada’s defense is awful – so he’s not really a viable replacement for A-rod, who, when healthy, is still an above-average defender at 3B, plus one of the top 5 right handed hitters in baseball – who hits for average, walks, and steals bases. A team would only take A-Rod if the Yanks ate a sizeable portion of this 32 mil/year – for the next, what, 7 years when he’ll definitely decline – and I’m sure they wouldn’t give up much. Team control of top prospects is like the new baseball form of oil.

And as for McCutcheon, the Pirates have a fan-base waiting for a winner and if they continue to trade exciting, productive young stars – that are cheap – they’ll be in their losing cycle forever.

As for Holliday, I understand the desire, but I think I’d rather have Carl Crawford’s skill set next year than Holliday’s skill set at all. Besides, he looks an awful lot like a national league player. He’s not worth the dollars. No, I think the Yanks did okay this offseason – sentimentally, I’ll miss Melky, and I wanted to see Ajax play, but we got proven talent for unproven hope.

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no i was serious about the post…and yes i am entitled to my opinion and it’s fun to be an at home GM…and if the current team was assembled with say McCutchen and Braun and Holliday then the Yanks could be replaced…and i do think McCutchen could be had for what a team would give up for Arod…and Tejeda is a cheap alternative if all else went well…but Boris’s antics become tiresome…and i know it would be difficult to pry Ryan Braun from the Brewers…but Granderson and Swisher are fairly cheap contracts and they almost double Braun total bases…and Granderson can fill a Centerfield void as far as power they are losing with Camerons departure…and Granderson does maintain the speed lost with Braun…the Brewers are very weak in LF so if Swisher is moved there the offense could produce more runs with Swisher and Granderson in the line up…in comparison to having Braun Carlos Gomez and Corey Hart…especially if Hart has a bounce back season…but your right he may be difficult to acquire…but i would consider giving up Mark Melancon as well…but you probably think thats pure insanity…

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Sorry, I just had to respond to that. What are you smoking?
Trade A-Rod? Moving $300 mil contracts aren’t so easy (read: impossible). Plus, the Pirates aren’t going to trade McCutcheon and the Brewers aren’t going to trade Braun. Offensive centerpieces like those guys either under contract or under team control don’t get moved for 2-3 years of can’t-hit-lefties Granderson and holes-in-his-swing Swisher. And why on earth would you want Tejada for any reason, or to replace a .300/30+ HR/110+ RBI guy like A-Rod with a lower avg., lower HR, lower RBI, all around lower production guy like Beltre coming off an injury-marred season???

I hope Cashman has absolutely no people that think like that sitting next to him.

And PS, I apologize for the rudeness in the post, I don’t really mean to be a jerk – I just think your ideas are batcrap crazy (though you’re obviously entitled to them!)

PPS – if that was meant as a joke post, I totally apologize for missing the point.

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if Arod were traded then it would cut payroll seriously…and with the chips that the Yanks would recieve for him in the deal…they could trade for mlb proven talent that is cheap…
Stay with me…they could trade some of the players they recieved for Arod for a centefielder like Andrew McCutchen of the Pitts Pirates…he is very cheap very atheletic very fast has desent power and will get his walks…he looks like he would be better in every phase of the game than Granderson except power…i think he would be great in the lead off spot…and the Yanks have traded with Pitt in the past…so they are open to a good trade…from there the Yanks could try to dump salary and while getting good power speed and OBP. by trading Granderson and Swisher to the Milwakee Brewers for Ryan Braun…he is also cheap and has 6 years lsft on his contarct…then they could afford Matt Holliday for likely 5 or 6 years for no more than 18 million…he could be placed in RF…Braun only had 1 error between 08 and 09 and also equals Granderson speed wise…this team would have a smaller payroll and it would be younger and faster than last years or the current one constructed so far…even while paying part of Arod’s contract and signing someone like Adrian Beltre for 3rd for 4 years 7.5 to 9mill or Miguel Tejeda for less money and two years…

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- Gardner has the speed and defensive skills to be our starting left fielder this year. I don’t see why the hunt for a ‘full time’ left fielder is neccessary to begin with. Do we honestly think his bat will never develop along the way? Let the man play… It’s funny that people are so concerned with left field, and fail to mention Nick Swisher’s mediocre fielding and slumping at bats… The problem’s in left, right? Think again…

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I think all the hard stand Cashman and co are taking will pay-off come next winter, when the big ticket free agents will the market.

28 is coming to a ball park near you…

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I think all the hard stand Cashman and co are taking will pay-off come next winter, when the big ticket free agents will the market.

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Could be wrong, but all that hard stand Cashman co. is taking could pay off come next winter (HSM)

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Remember when the Yankees said they were prepared to go into the 2006 season with Bubba Crosby? They went post haste, and signed Johnny Damon. Remember when Sheff was hurt and DL’d? They replaced him with Bobby Abreu. When the Yanks said they were done spending after signing CC and AJ, – POW! – Enter Teixeira. If I were Brett Gardner I wouldn’t get too comfortable. Whenever the Yankees say they are prepared to go with somebody, that means until they can get someone better. Show me you want to lower payroll Mr. Cashman. Show me.

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Remember how the Yanks said they were prepared to go into the season with Bubba Crosby for 2006? They went post haste and signed Johnny Damon. After the Yanks shovelled all that cash at C.C. and A.J., they said they were done; then, POW!-enter TEX. When Sheff was DL’d, the Yanks traded for Abreu!…? If I were Brett Gardner, I wouldn’t get too comfortable. Right Bubba? When the Yanks say they’re prepared to go with someone, they really mean until they can get someone better.
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I don’t see why the yanks can’t just use Brett Gardner in left. He can cover all of the ground out their defensively, he adds speed on the bases. Batting him 9th makes him like a second leadoff man like what the yanks did to start the season. If that doesn’t work out then make a trade a the deadline. I don’t want to see some player on the decline (Dye) get ABs over a younger player that could have impact on the future. They should just let Gardner go out there and find out if he is good enough to play as an everyday MLB OF. I have seen that people are upset with the fact that Melky is gone but Gardner beat him out for the starting job in spring training so its not like he can’t play.

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