Yanks will sleep on Wang’s next start

Wang.jpgThere has been no ironclad, definitive statement that Chien-Ming Wang will make his next start in the Yankees rotation after tonight’s clunker. There also hasn’t been a declaration that he won’t. Basically, it’s wait-and-see at this point.

“I’m not ready to make that decision right now,” Yankees manager Joe Girardi said in his office. “We’re seven minutes after the game, so it’s something we’ll discuss. I’ll sleep on it. In five days, somebody will be out there.”

That ‘somebody’ could be Phil Hughes, of course, if the Yankees choose to go that route. But the fact that Wang would be facing a bad Nationals team on Tuesday, at home in New York, could work in his favor. Maybe they’ll give him one more chance to straighten his mechanics out.

“It’s definitely frustrating for me,” Wang said through an interpreter. “I haven’t thrown a good ballgame in a while. It’s definitely frustrating.”

If I had to guess right now, I’d say the odds are 50-50. Think the Yankees aren’t confused? Check out this honest admission from Girardi, which he dropped after most of the reporters had left the room:

“Everyone kept asking, ‘When are you going to put him in the rotation? Hasn’t he shown you enough to put him in the rotation?’” Girardi said. “Now I’ve put him in the rotation, he struggles twice, and people are saying, ‘Why’d you put him in the rotation?’ He was pitching well, so we thought he was ready to go.”

What’s the problem, anyway? Dave Eiland said that Wang’s arm slot is all over the place and that he’s not able to take his bullpens out to the mound. Eiland seems a little perplexed by this, and even though he admits Wang isn’t back to where he was pre-injury in 2008, he says he’s convinced Wang is healthy enough to pitch in the big leagues. But he can’t command his pitches — he missed a lot low in the zone tonight — and that’s killing him.

“He’s got to take it out there with him,” Eiland said. “I can’t stand there behind the mound with him during the game.”

In this series, A.J. Burnett and Wang have combined to allow nine runs (seven earned) on 11 hits and eight walks in 5 1/3 innings (11.81 ERA).

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Eiland was brought in to work with Kennedy and Hughes, look how that turned out…

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Mattys how about a new pitching coach?

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well Mattys I hope you’re right, if they have to demote him then demote him, stop messing with both him and Hughes,

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Everybody is Wang here Wang there, when AJ suck the other night nobody said to send him to the bullpen, when CC sucks the same thing, is this because the contract those guys have?

Wang will get this straighten out, if he can’t then they should start with Dave Eiland, he’s the one that should do his job to get these guys back on track, if he can’t do it then he should go, and maybe bring Gator back or find someone else.

one last thing, lets not forget the best pitcher in the A.L this year went all the way to A ball and came back

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btw—GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!

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I love the yankees and will always be a yankee fan no matter what happens. We had a couple tough games, but we’ll bounce back and we’ll be there at the end. Especially if we get some help in the bull pen. Dump Veras & BRING MELANCON BACK!!!! With that being said; It was tough to watch the last two games. Wang was really bad and clearly needs some help with his confidence and Burnett wasn’t much better. I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this and I wanted to hear some other opinions. But I think alot of this ties to Posada. He’s known for his hitting and his gritty grind it out personality which I respect. But let’s be honest, he stinks defensively as a catcher. He cannot run a pitching staff nearly as well as Molina and surprisingly Cervelli. We seem to go on a run when those guys were catching. Even Cash did a really good job when he was up. I know none of them can hit for crap, but that’s not what the team needs and that’s not what wins championships. Pitching does. Pitchers seem to struggle anytime Posada catches them. I think the only one he is half way good with is Pettitte. I know it’s sac-religious to say anything negative about Posada because of what he has meant to the Yankees. He also hit that home run last night to get us on the board. But I really think he is the achiles heel of the team if is does anything except DH. Thoughts?

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The whole situation with Chien-Ming Wang is very puzzling; but, it is very clear that his mechanics are not working they way they should be !!! … I think, he is still not 100% healthy yet — going all the way back to his base running injury last year … The Yankees made he right move earlier in the year by sending Wang down to the minors, but brought him back “way too soon” !!! … In my view, Wang needs to be sent back to AAA-SWB to build up his arm strength; get his pitch counts up over 100 pitches per game; and, get his mechanics in order before returning to the Yankees starting rotation … At this point in the season, Phil Hughes is pitching much better [as a starter] than Wang, and should be returned to the rotation and remain there as long as he keeps pitching effectively, or until Chien-Ming Wang is fully ready to rejoin the rotation again !!! … Also, I don’t think the solution is having Wang, and, or, Hughes pitching out of the bullpen !!! … Both are “starters”, and should pitch in the rotation either with the Yankees or at AAA-SWB … Right now, Hughes should be in the Yankees starting rotation; and, Wang should be in the starting rotation at SWB !!!
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Tonight’s game against the Red Sox is a “must-win” game for the Yankees !!! … We need a great pitching performance by CC Sabathia that will lead to a huge victory for the New York Yankees !!! … I don’t even want to think about the Yankees leaving Boston with a “0-8″ record vs. the Red Sox this season !!!
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“Go Yankees” !!!
– Jimmy 27NYY Curran, “BY&L”
http://baseballtheyankeesandlife.mlblogs.com/

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I will may this prediction again. “Wang is Done”. Giradi and whomever can talk that talk, “Wang is Done”. If you can’t pitch inside with authority and you only have one pitch. You are not a major league pitcher, you can be a relieve pitcher maybe? Stop wasting time with Wang. With the sorry defense the yankees have in the outfield and the porous relieve pitching, Wang compounds the problem. And I am sick of these starters that can only pitch 6 innings. Pitch count and all that baloney, excuses, excuses. People are paying good money to watch and go to these games and all I hear is excuses. I having hit a baseball in 20 years but I can hit Wang weak stuff. LOL

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Why not have Hughes pitch the next game instead of Wang, and if he continues to have success, then he should keep starting. However, if he fails, then Wang should pitch his next start instead and continue to pitch if he is successful…and should he fail, have Hughes to pitch instead of Wang. This way, there will be more competition and perhaps Wang will get better. I just don’t get what’s bothering him, why is he not pitching well when he was doing fine in the bullpen?

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I just hated last night game, let Hughes pitch and keep Wang in the bullpen. If Hughes fail, then Wang pitch his next start instead. Should Wang fails, then Hughes pitch instead of Wang so that they would be some competition between the two. I just don’t get Wang, he was so good last few years, and now he’s not, and he also did better in the bullpen than starting.

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD June 10, 2009
Trenton 1
Reading (Phillies) 4
W: Savery (7-1, 3.78); L: Texeira, K (5-4, 4.02); SV: Anderson (4)
HR: TRN: Vechionacci (3). REA: Sellers (7), Stavisky (2).
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Sarasota (Reds) 3
Tampa 7
W: Pendleton (5-3, 3.70); L: Montano (4-6, 6.37)
HR: TAM: Romine (8).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_06_10_sarafa_tbyafa_1
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Augusta (Giants) 0
Charleston 2
W: Phelps (6-1, 3.03); L: Nicholson (4-6, 4.10); SV: Venditte (20)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_06_10_augafx_crdafx_1
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You may also see http://www.yankeesdaily.com for details.
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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD June 11, 2009

Scranton/WB
Gwinnett (Braves) 7:00 PM
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Trenton
Reading (Phillies) 7:05 PM
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Tampa
Saint Lucie (Mets)7:00 PM
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Augusta (Giants) 7:05 PM
Charleston
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I don’t understand Wang at all; after the 2007 ALDS where he took a lot of stick for two defeats against the Indians, he came back in 2008 and looked nasty. Ok, he was only 8-2 with an era hovering about 4.00 but where has that fire to prove himself gone? I think the problem with benching Wang to prevent Hughes stunting his growth is complicated by the fact both pitchers are going to be needed for the rotation next year – I don’t see anyone from the minors stepping up anytime soon. Next year will be Wang’s contract year, maybe that will give him the incentive to step up.

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I hated last night’s game. Hughes is going to start in the future anyway so why not let him start now? Why stunt his growth?

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I am so perplexed by the way the Yankees staff and brass have been unable to produce young talent the way the Red Sox staff and management have been able to the past 5 years. With the opportunity to let your young pitcher, Phil Hughes, pitch in a meaningful rivalry the Yankees choose to pull him out of the starting rotation and let Wang, yeah a 19-game winner, pitch to one of the best lineups in the majors…how about letting him get back into the rotation a bit easier schedule? Pressure! Joe Girardi and the Yankees trying to catch lightning in a bottle! As a die-hard Yankees fan…LET PHIL HUGHES pitch; if he loses then I am ok with that, but do not feel obliged to use Wang when he is not confident…you can see that, he unsure of what he is doing on the mound! If you are going to lose games…lose them with your best pitching options…do not commit to losing games with a less than effective pitcher!

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