Report: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in ’03

Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids during his 2003 American League MVP season with the Texas Rangers, four sources independently told Sports Illustrated in a report published online Saturday.
 
Rodriguez’s name appeared on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in Major League Baseball’s 2003 survey testing, SI said. He reportedly tested positive for testosterone and an anabolic steroid called Primobolan while playing for Texas.
 
There is no indication that Rodriguez has tested positive for steroids since 2003. When approached by SI’s Selena Roberts on Thursday at the University of Miami, Rodriguez refused to discuss the test results.
 
“You’ll have to talk to the union,” Rodriguez said. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, “I’m not saying anything.”
 
There were no penalties for a positive test in 2003, with testing conducted to determine if MLB would impose random drug testing for 2004. But MLB’s drug policy has expressly prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991.
 
The SI report also indicated, citing three Major League players, that Rodriguez had been tipped by MLBPA chief operating officer Gene Orza in early September 2004 that he would be tested later in the month. Rodriguez declined to respond to SI when asked about the warning Orza allegedly provided him.
 
When Orza was asked on Friday in the union’s New York City office about the tipping allegations, he told SI’s David Epstein, “I’m not interested in discussing this information with you.”

The full Sports Illustrated article is here. SI has even more information on A-Rod coming for their issue, available on newsstands Tuesday.

MLB.com’s mainbar for A-Rod coverage begins here.

MLB’s executive vice president of labor relations,
Rob Manfred, issued a statement in response Saturday which read:

“We are disturbed by the allegations contained in the Sports
Illustrated news story which was posted online this morning. Because
the survey testing that took place in 2003 was intended to be
non-disciplinary and anonymous, we can not make any comment on the
accuracy of this report as it pertains to the player named.

“Based on the results of the 2003 tests, Major League Baseball
was able to institute a mandatory random-testing program with penalties
in 2004. Major League Baseball and the Players Association have
improved the drug testing program on several occasions so that it is
now the toughest program in professional sports. The program bans
stimulants, such as amphetamines, as well as steroids.

“Any allegation of tipping that took place under prior iterations of
the program is of grave concern to Major League Baseball, as such
behavior would constitute a serious breach of our agreement.


“Under Commissioner Selig’s leadership, Major League Baseball remains
fully committed to the elimination of the use of performance enhancing
substances from baseball. As the Commissioner has said, we will
continue to do everything within our power to eliminate the use of such
drugs and to protect the integrity of the program.”

Brian Cashman is declining comment today, but here is what he said last week about A-Rod — interesting that they have been keeping in touch more these days than ever.

He’s excited. I talked to him the
other day. He’s worked hard like he always does and he’s excited about the new
acquisitions. He’s actually stayed more in touch with me this winter than any
other winter that I probably can remember. He was excited when we signed CC,
pushing me to get A.J., pushing me to get Andy, and pleasantly surprised and
probably blown away when we wound up with Teixeira at the same time. He’s
excited to go get after it, he’s going to go play in the WBC first, but his
attitude has been sky high and he’s looking to hit the ground running.”

Via ESPN, this from Fernando Montes, the former Rangers
director of conditioning:

“In 2003, Assistant GM Jon Daniels
asked me whether I thought Alex Rodriguez was using steroids and I said, ‘Yes.’
I had no evidence, but the level of performance did not match the level of work
in the weight room. We had no proof, because we couldn’t see test results.
Without a doubt, though, this was more than an educated guess. Jon Daniels knew
(the suspicions).”

Daniels’ response to ESPN: “I have no
recollection of that conversation.”

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What A-Rod needs to do is have a banner year. Hit 55 home runs while batting .320. Field like the gloden glove he should be. Ans act like TEAM LEADER he should be. Then he can come back out and say yes I made a mistake and shoed poor judgement but look I truely am one of the great one even clean. The midwest Yankee fan

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If I were in a room with all of the people who never cheated or broke a law I’d be all alone and would have to leave immediately!

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A-Rod made a big mistake…i think he is lying about the time frame (2001 thru 2003) and not know what kind of steroids he was taking…the interview left some questions unanswered…like who gave it to him…how often did he take and in what dosage…this will probably cost more pain down the road…he sounded so plastic so packaged so A-Fraudish…it just seemed like it was something that didn’t matter too much to him…and i know thats not true so i guess that he was trying to be relaxed…but in the end it won’t make a difference because his money is guaranteed…Only the fans will suffer and the Yankees who are stuck with him…
he should have said he wanted to be tested 10 times more than any player from this point forward and he was dropping Scott Boras and he would take a pay cut and play for a more incentive base contract…the Yankee Fanatic.

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Saiki I do agree with you, and while cheating may not be ‘human nature’ it sure is being seen as ‘prevelant’ in most other facets of society. I turn on the nightly news or a local news show and you know Cheating in some form or another is one of the more predominant stories everyday! I won’t say it’s human nature, but the ol’ ‘least path of resistance’ mentality sure does apply. Of course I don’t condone it, I’ll only say that I understand the lure to do so.

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BAN HIM FOR LIFE. 3 YEARS, ARE YOU SERIOUS?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

AROID ADMITS TO TAKING STEROIDS IN HEAVY HEAVY DOSES FOR 3 YEARS BUT NOT WITH THE YANKEES. GAMMONS EXCLUSIVE

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THERES ALOT OF PLAYERS THAT ARE DOING STERIODS LIKE ORTIZ,MANNY RAMIREZ,MIGUEL CABRERA,ADAM DUNN,MIKE LOWELL,BONDS,PUJOLS..

http://junior13.mlblogs.com/

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http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/32EA0199DADBAD4E86257558006575D7?OpenDocument
Yankees to look at Adam Kennedy? Cano needs to watching even if Kennedy is a backup.

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Aussie B,

The thing is Arod: he lied on CBS and kept this a secret and now he continues to lie. Giambi and Pettitte are at the end of their careers, Arod has 9 or years remaining on his contract.

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Hear we go again, another season ready to go and another shot at The Yankees to endeavour to derail such optimism as has occurred in the past 3 years at the very least.

What is the difference between say Giambi and then Pettite. They were both forgiven totally especially after the stance they took. The same no doubt occur with Alex no doubt.

My problem from my limited knowledge is that this ” offence ” took place in 2003. A time when there was no punishment handed out AT ALL. Why then would not every player take whatever if when tested and tests proved positive nothing, no punishment would be handed down.
What if there was no punishment at all for crimes say rape, robbery or murder or whatever , would more crimes of that nature taken place YES. Would you be able to punish people 5 years later for those crimes if they were now a punishable offence NO.

Why has just Alex been pointed out in this list of 104 players , that is puzzling. Surely all 104 players should be named and the whole matter dealt with collectively.

I will not and cannot condone the use of performance enhancing drugs I never will but you cannot punish the past now you simply cannot. You have to trust he and others are now clean and will continue to remain clean and if caught NOW, then yes throw the book at him or anyone else. Just as we cannot charge and punish someone for a crime committed 5 years ago which at the time was not a punishable offence.

I am not condoning Alex at all but it was the system in place at the time which hopefully has beeen changed. Before Alex apologises or does whatever though ALL OTHER PLAYERS must be named why should he take the fall for 103 others ( let alone others who were not caught but were guilty ).
We have to move on and deal with the present and the future not the past as bad as the past may appear.

Aussie Bryan

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Does Arod have an opt out?

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A-Rod should definately go to camp and be very apologetic and very open…so this can blow over by pre-season…

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The best case senario for all people involved would be…
A-Rod holds a press conference as soon as possible…and in front of the cameras…he apologizes to everyone from now until camp and beyond…he should declare that he will never take PED’s ever again…at the conference he then should lay down a series of proposals…#1 declare that he wants to be tested randomly at least once a week year round and he is willing to split the cost between MLB-the Yankees and himself…#2Tell the Yankees he is willing to take a shorter contract(say 6 to 8 years) for a much lower base salary with performance incentives…to show he is not greedy and can be great without steriods and that he can earn his salary…#3 he should say before the media that he is willing to allow his contract to be voided if he ever tests positive from steriods ever again…#4 he should anounce that he will no longer work with Scott Boras…if he does this i think he can get the fans back in his corner…make the Yankees happy…get the media out of his hair…who would then turn their attention to finding out who are the other 103 players on the failed PED test list…this would allow A-Rod to focused on winning a championship…and may finally change his Karma…and possibly redeem him over the rest of his career so he might have a shot at making the Hall of fame…

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The Giants have signed about 6 type A and B free agents and are preparing to sign more.
The same people who suggested Michael Young for us are now saying Texas should trade Marlon Byrd to play CF this year

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If Arod is excused from camp to avoid the circus, this will be rewarding him for bad behavior.

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Truth be told, Yankees fans hate Arod more than Clemens, lots of arrests coming this season. Clemens quickly became a fan favorite going after Piazza, Arod never has.

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I agree Golf but we should look into voiding him and can’t believe after Giambi we wouldn’t protect ourselves. Lol@Pavano, he would have been released just for being on the 60 day Pavano, you can’t do that until he comes off.

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We’re not cutting him. We didn’t cut Giambi. We didn’t cut Pavano. We’re not cutting ARod. We made our bed, we now have to lay in it.

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The poll results of that article reflect a fan opinion that we should cut him also. Unless Madden has fixed the results, that is very important, look for as Madden indicated more booing, more fan arrest. Basically don’t take your kids to the ballpark if you can’t deal with this. I disagree with eating the salary, I think a court would back us voiding the deal if we can find the right clause and argument. There doesn’t have to be a PED clause. Find something that indicates detrimental behavior and if he didn’t disclose the usage, he’s done.

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When the New York Yankees re-signed Alex Rodriguez in the fall of 2007, they envisioned the “clean” alternative to Barry Bonds – the knight in shining armor who would erase the stain of steroids from the all-time home run record, and they would bask in the glory of it with their brand, according to New York Daily News baseball columnist Bill Madden.

Now that A-Rod’s pursuit looks as counterfeit as Bonds’, they should do what’s best for the organization: Cut him loose — no matter the cost. As difficult as it is to imagine eating $270 million, the Bombers will be making a statement, not just for the Yankee brand but for baseball as a whole. They will be applauded for it. The Yankees operate under two basic tenets: The relentless pursuit of championships and the fierce protection of their brand. If they are going to remain true to both, then they have no choice but to sever ties with Rodriguez. This winter the Yankees invested $423 million with the signings of CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Mark Teixeira. All of that figures to be offset now by the reports that A-Rod was a steroid cheat.

Everywhere the Yankees go this spring and into the season, they will be greeted by choruses of “A-Fraud!” and “A-Roid!” And if you think A-Rod wilted under the pressure of big games before, just imagine his delicate psyche now under the heightened scrutiny of the media and fans. Don’t think for a minute that Derek Jeter and the rest of A-Rod’s teammates are privately reveling in his exposure as a true phony, as some people are suggesting. This affects all of them, and their pursuit of championships is hindered by his being a constant source of unwanted turmoil.

New York Daily News

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Golf, you need to blame Arod, he decided to take the PED, I highly doubt Jeter would make that decision.

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And I think SI sucks. they’ve been as anti-Yankees as ESPN. And that B*TCH that wrote the story ought to be sued. It’s not about the story of PED use in the MLB. It’s about Arod testing positive. If it were about PED use and it’s anonymous testing in 2003, she wouldn’t have gone with the story until she had more names.

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I don’t blame the players. I don’t blame ARod. I blame the Player’s Union and MLB. Human nature says we all want to get ahead or get a leg up. Yes, there is a segment (albeit small) of the population that will do it the old fashioned way, thru hard work but the fact is, human nature usually takes over and most do it the OLDER fashioned way, by cheating. The fact is, MLB said “No, you sneaky little boys, don’t you use any PEDs! You’re all responsible little boys so we’re going to put you on your honor. We’re telling you you can’t use anything but we’re not going to test you for it because the players union doesn’t want us too, so we won’t. But DON’T YOU DARE!” Are you F*K*N* KIDDING ME? Who here doesn’t set the cruise control to 74 on the highway when the speed limit is 65 because you know there is next to NO chance you’ll be stopped for speeding? No, I don’t blame the players. I blame the MLBPU and MLB itself. OTR, Class I drivers have to submit to mandatory random drug tests. And if I were ARod I’d make sure my lawyer sued the living P1$$ out of the MLBPU and MLB for leaking the information. As for taking the 2003 MVP and batting title from him and giving it to someone else, unless you can show me the negative drug test for that someone else…… MLB can’t do a thing since they weren’t testing back then.

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GSJAY,
what he is believe to test positive for is a long term use steroid, you are absolutely correct.

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bpark, this will all be forgotten by next year, if God permits.
By bronxkidd@hotmail.com on February 8, 2009 10:59 PM
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Some how I doubt that. Clemens and Bonds are on going, so will Arod. The only way its forgot is if we release him and move on.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/02/08/2009-02-08_eating_270m_worth_it_for_the_yankees_to_-2.html
Bill Madden: cut Arod and eat the money. Poll agrees. Try to void deal first. I am pretty sure a court will back us if we didn’t know about this and no one will touch him.

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BXkid

A-Rod was on the juice for a lot longer than one year. He tested positive in 2003 and after the mandatory rules came in for 2004 was WARNED about the upcoming drug test by Orza, the COO of the players union. If you look at A-Rods HR numbers, you’ll notice a huge jump in 1998. Look at his body build in 1997 and watch it change over the years and figure it out.

The way these drug Doctors engineer this crap, to always be one step ahead of the testers, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was still on the juice.

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bpark, this will all be forgotten by next year, if God permits. Just like the Mitchell report of 2007. Heck… I don’t even remember it. I don’t think I want to know the other names on that list either… it’s in the past and it should stay there. I’m still going to watch baseball, cheer for my Yankees… and Alex; I’m still going to go see , at the very least, a couple of games in person; bleacher price ( I’ll manage to sneak down to field level, like I did a few years back… hee hee! ) and I won’t think our 2009 championship is tainted, if we’re that fortunate. In fact, it wouldn’t ever cross my mind, a championship is earned with hard work, dedication and grit. Not steroids.

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The difference between Arod and everyone else either guilty or accussed, we have to deal with this for 10 more years…

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BXKidd, Arod has never acknowledged this and apparently he has atleast 1 positive test for multiple PEDS and like for anthemines also. This is extremely dishonest and shows what type of person he is and is just another example of a long pattern of behavior.

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The thing that bothers me most about the 104 players is no provision was made for those with valid prescriptions. In fact since the testing purpose was to determine if there were enough positives to support regular testing that question might not have been asked. Hell, I take steroids for the Asthma I’ve had all of my life. Now I doubt they are anabolic but one is very widely prescribed as an anti-inflammatory for injuries and other things as well as Asthma.

I also don’t know why every male should not test positive for Testosterone and if there is any wiggle room for drugs like Primobolan (Methenolone Acetate) that is not available by prescription. I saw some vague reference to it being used for urinary track infections. How many men have not had one? I have.

So I don’t have enough information yet to be damning anyone. And my sensibility was already destroyed when Andy Pettitte lied!!!

By RobertGKramer@AOL.Com on February 8, 2009 8:10 PM
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Asthma meds show up as just that. The steroid Arod was said to have tested positive for was designed for long term use and in much higher quantities.

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Robert
Gene Orza, COO for the players Union did everything he could to lower the number in the test report, so the mandatory testing policy wouldn’t be implemented for 2004. I’m sure he contacted players to determine if they were on any prescriptions.
Remember Orza tried everything he could to get this number below the 5% threshold.
It’s also been reported Orza tipped A-Rod on the test timetable for 2004, so figure it out.

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” Out with A-Rod… TERMINATE THE CONTRACT!… A-Rod is done… ”

Alright guys, I think we’re overreacting here. First off, he used steroids… in 2003, the year he hit 47 HRs. He didn’t use steroids in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 or pre- 2003 or 2008, it clearly says… 2003. I wouldn’t feel sorry one bit if his MVP award and Batting Title of that year were stripped from him, but what about his other 500 homers… his 54 in 2007? Are those tainted too? Because he took anabolics one year? Please… let’s get off the ” I hate A-Rod ” bandwagon”. As if the sole reason you went to baseball games were to see him play, when much of you booed him in 2006. To think that the rest of his career was powered by promolabene or whatever the heck this drug is called is a huge.. huge misconcecption. Same thing with Clemens and Pettitte. They still had to prepare themselves mentally and physicly every off-season for a grueling, phatiguing 162 games a year.

That is why they attributed their success to their off-season training regimens and their diets. Because if it were the steroids playing… I could take any meathead from the local gym, that shoots up three times a week , and convert him into the next home run king and invest all this money into him.

In no way am I defending Alex or what he did. He’s dirty for doing it, but c’mon, you can’t attribute these players’ success to anabolics. He’s human, he is imperfect, and we are nobody to judge him for what he did, because we sin just like him.

He took steroids… he ain’t the devil. AMEN!

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The thing that bothers me most about the 104 players is no provision was made for those with valid prescriptions. In fact since the testing purpose was to determine if there were enough positives to support regular testing that question might not have been asked. Hell, I take steroids for the Asthma I’ve had all of my life. Now I doubt they are anabolic but one is very widely prescribed as an anti-inflammatory for injuries and other things as well as Asthma.

I also don’t know why every male should not test positive for Testosterone and if there is any wiggle room for drugs like Primobolan (Methenolone Acetate) that is not available by prescription. I saw some vague reference to it being used for urinary track infections. How many men have not had one? I have.

So I don’t have enough information yet to be damning anyone. And my sensibility was already destroyed when Andy Pettitte lied!!!

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My mistake I misheard that, he will pinch hit/DH for Puerto Rico. He is still rehabbing the Quad injury.

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Bernie Williams is out of WBC sportscenter reports, he will retire.

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I don’t think Jeter will switch positions unless he moves to 2B

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Brian Fuentes thinks otherwise.

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Pretty simple:

OUT with A-Rod…just as tough (if not worse) to root for as Roger

Move Jeter to center this year…

If Hughes looks good…Joba to the pen…he’s heir apparent to Mariano

See you in October!

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http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090208&content_id=3810004&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
They should ask Clemens to come down and hang out as a fan make it a real circus.

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hey im a yanks and a-rod fan and i am gonna say this he did not use that stupid thing steriods….

http://junior13.mlblogs.com/

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He had too many oppurtunities to come clean, his contract should be terminated.

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That may be true with or without the drug thing!

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Too much money tied up in this guy and no one will trade for him

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BP,
You were so “wound up” over this yesterday I was afraid you couldn’t sleep. I’m surprised I was able to sleep without extra medication!

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You mean worrying about retaliation?

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BP,
Did you get any sleep last night?

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Questions of Authenticity for Alex Rodriguez-Tyler Kepner
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/questions-of-authenticity-for-alex-rodriguez/

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From what I’ve read, SI’s Selena Roberts was researching a book about A-Rod when she received the information. Otherwise there may have been some other names mentioned. The public outcry may result in an earlier release of some other names or possibly the entire list. The records will eventually be unsealed as the Balco case proceeds.

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If Major League Baseball and the players union want to reinstate baseball’s credibility they should immediately take the following steps.

1) Release the full test results from 2003 to the fans.
2) Change the rules so any player caught using PED’s receives an automatic 60 day suspension on the first offense, 1 year on the 2nd and lifetime on the 3rd. Three strikes and you’re out. Any positive test result is released to the public. The list of offending PED’s to be identical to the Olympic committees list.
3) Amend all player contracts to allow teams the right to cancel any player agreement if the player tests positive.
4) Analyze all player awards from the period, strip them from players who tested positive and award them to the player who garnished the most votes and was clean.

As fans who pay exorbitant prices for tickets, we have rights and should demand these changes take place or boycott the game.

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On another subject. I wanna see a mean Phil Hughes who goes out and takes a rotation spot. Clemens helped him but he won’t be near him again, he needs to get like Joba and start being a mean dominating PED free pitcher.

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We have 2 choice no middle ground.
1. Try to get out of the contract.
2. Let him break records in our uniform and deal with the downfall.

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Whats even worse, Boras apparently warned Arod of when the test was Boras is just as complicite.

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You’re all falling for the Bad press tactics…shame on you.

Cob
http://cobf.mlblogs.com

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Bronxkidd,

I’d add Pujols, Thomas, and Thome to that list.

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Bern-asoto,
I don’t feel as if saying “Thank God for Jeter” is worshiping him, what I meant by the statement was how grateful I was for a clean ball player, in this era, to do great things in a Yankee uniform.

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Imagine… the next five names reading as follows:

Manny Ramirez
Ken Griffey Jr.
Miguel Tejada
Miguel Cabrera
David Ortiz

baseball would be tainted forever. These guys are the faces of their respective franchises and of MLB, practicly! How would we bear those news…?

I still want to know though… A-Rod has already been thrown under the bus, how furtunate. The best hitter of his era is now another roider… not to mention he is a Yankee. C’mon SI, GIVE ME MORE.

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Mmmmphh, this one hurts, deep in my chest. I’m an A-Rod fan, and I’ll continue to back the guy, but man… anabolics? In 2003, when he won both the MVP and Batting Title? It’s crystal clean, I have no doubts he used steroids then… I just want to know how he will respond to the media all year, and how it’s going to affect his season; Maybe this explains why he’s such a headcase, hiding such a thing for so many years… And yes… thank God for Jeter… while we do give him praise, it’s because he deserves it; He has been clean all career long, I don’t care if his range and bat are declining… at least we know it’s because of natural aging.

I can’t say I hate A-Rod now, but my view on him will never be the same… and why his name only? There are about another hundred on that list of anonymous athletes, I WANT THE OTHER NAMES, ********!

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i’m gonna watch baseball because it gives me pleasure…it’s a nice distraction…every institution is corrupt…greed,the lust for power and fame have driven people we trust to cheat…the goverment is doing it big time…the medical industry…investment bankers…insurance companies…big corparations…you name it…people are stealing taking brides hording and ultilizing insider information to make millions and drive others into the poor house….everywhere is an abuse of power…i’m not surprised…i’m not even mad at A-Rod…he i suspect, like most atheletes in all sports…surcame to greed and the desire to be the a star…i am mad with the Yankees…because from the day i heard how much they were giving him and for how long…i just thought it was stupid on their part…now it is official they have made the dumbest move in baseball…
and i still want the Yankees to win the World Series…
because i suspect the MLB is filled with people who have taken and maybe still use steriods…the Yankees better nullify Arod’s contract though and renegotiate with him…if they have no legal way to do that then they are more foolish than i originally suspected…

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I don’t think we should be shooting the messenger (SI), we should be thankful they exposed this cover up by MLB and the players union.

Think about it, this test was ordained by both MLB and the players union. When they got the results back, they implemented mandatory testing starting 2004 and buried the test results with a court order. And after all of this, they awarded A-Fraud the MVP, knowing he had failed the drug test TWICE. What kind of BS is that?

Now what the hell does that say about the MVP award. This is much bigger than just A-Fraud. This is about MLB and the players union manipulating information, player awards and the message to fans.

If they’re allowed to get away with it, what does that do to future MVP winners or for that matter any award winner. What does that do for the game itself-it’s all suspect, manipulated BS.

Until this list is released, how can anyone call A-Rod one of the great players of all time. I call him one of the great players on drugs. Why should his records or Clemens records or any of the rest of these druggies overtake the true greats of the game. Does anyone really think A-Rod deserves the all-time home run title over someone like Hank Aaron?
I think not-thats my point.

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Ok, Terrific.

This is all we freaking need right now. Say goodbye to the season already!

And, um, WebbiefitzJulia, how the hell can you say there is no reason to suspect that David Ortiz did PEDS? Um, he never hit more than 20 HR’s with the Twins, and all of a sudden he becomes this massive power hitter when he goes to Boston? Do you even watch baseball??? Look at his stats! He totally juiced up. Check baseball referrence and you’ll see the huge leap when he left MN…I sincerely doubt it was because of “fenway”…

I am thuroughly convinced that everyone in baseball is juicing. This is retarded. I can’t watch professional sports anymore. Carlos Pena is on drugs too. So is Dan Uggla. Who Cares. Just pick one, anyone, and they are on the juice. And to the dehydrated feminine hygeine products who think that it’s just A-Rolf and that the players on THEIR teams are squeaky clean, guess again you flaming retards! If you are so ignorant and gullible to believe that NO ONE on your respective teams are on the stuff, I have a fancy bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. I am always amazed at the low level of intellectual evolvement I find on this blog that just happens to come mostly from people who are emphatically NOT Yankee fans. Idiots.

….It’s a lot more than 104 players.

My only gripe with this is that SI are a bunch of punks who make a career out of exploiting athletes and then trying to find dirt on them that eventually ruins careers, all just to sell magazines. And they always misquote and misrepresent the people they interview. Worst source for sports info, period. It is possible that SI is lying….but I doubt it.

The effn season is in the godddamned tank. I am so not going to bother anymore.

THE ENTIRE LEAGUE IS A-FRAUD. WAKE THE EFF UP PEOPLE!!

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Give me the other 103 names on that list and THEN I’ll be more than happy to feed A-Rod to the lions. Until then, all I see is one man being singled out – one man who happens to be one of the best ball-players ever. Yes, A-Rod is an arrogant, egotistical, lying, unfaithful, spoiled horse’s rear and I don’t doubt for a minute that he did use steroids and then lied about it. But again, ONE name out of 104 positive test results?? Either out everyone or keep your mouth shut. As far as I’m concerned, if SI simply couldn’t resist this info, then they should have published the whole list at one time.

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Ya know, I think WE THE BASEBALL fans should go on strike… First we have these OVERPRICED Tickets to watch OVERATED ROID infested bunch of LOSERS hit a white ball, than hide behind the players union WITH HELP IT seems from MLB. SHAME on US the FANS for letting it get this far.
BOY now I am SOOOO glad I did NOT buy Season tickets this year to the NEW Stadium( the first time in 20 years I did NOT). BOY all this crap happening NOW is starting to make me feel MUCH BETTER.
GO A-ROID may your balls shrivel up to NOTHING you lying *******!!!

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One other point. In my view MLB should release this complete report so fans could see who the 104 players who tested positive are. Clearly, MLB are likely the ones who sealed the evidence under court order, so they can also release it.

If they are serious about getting beyond this soiled period of the game, this is the only way to do it, other than that all fans will speculate for years who the other 103 players are and no records of players of that period will ever stand the test of time.

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I seem to remember that as part of his contract A-Fraud was obligated to do multiple appearances on behalf of the Yankees or the Yankees network, I’m not sure which, to justify the enormous contract he received.

So it appears to me that regardless of what the players union says, Cashman is justified to wack the contract-maybe not eliminate it, but certainly lower it, since these appearances would likely cost the Yanks if A-Fraud appeared, not help them.

The point is, The Yankees are like Mr. Baseball, what they do in this instance is critical for the credibility of the game on a long term basis. If management allow A-Fraud to maintain his contract without modification, it makes a mockery of the game.

This is specifically true since Major League Baseball knew about A-Fraud testing positive BEFORE they awarded him the MVP. So if I was the Yanks, I’d have questions for the commissioners office as well, since it’s certain they knew about the testing or they wouldn’t have changed the rules right after the report.

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I think DR should boot him from the WBC team.

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Hmm I remember BASHING A-ROD at the end of last season for NO CLUTCH HITTING!! I also remember all the IDIOT A-ROD fans on this post bashing ME!!! for bashing him!!
WELL WHERE THE H**L ARE YOU NOW!! HA HA HA !!
A-ROID the FRAUD I like the sound of that.
I know when Iam at the games this year EVERY TIME HE STEPS TO THE PLATE I hope everyone BOOOOOSSS I know I will…
WHAT A JERK.
Get roid of him already. Take our chance CUT him NOW and see what MLB and the Players union do? WHO the HELL cares if they strike it is time to clean this SPORT up NOW. They won’t strike and risk losing the fans again, NOT over something like CHEATING.
COME ON A-ROD fans where are YA NOW???

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Why if I even attempt to purchase steroids, i got to jail? Why do student athletes get kicked off college teams for smoking weed? But our role models test positive for roids with no consequences?

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…if kids need role models they should turn to their parents.

By keyswahili@yahoo.com on February 7, 2009 5:28 PM
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That has to be the dummiest comment on here other than the guy who attacked Bryan. Aroid is a father, great role model.

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Referring all comment to the union makes him look like a puppet of a flawed system and guilty as hell.

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Arod is done. If he plays he will be very unhappy. Even when he has success it is going to be miserable on the road and likely at home too.

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I thought Canseco denied that Clemens used?

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Too late B, he denied Canseco and he went 60 minutes and denied it. He is full of ****.

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Macnamee raped a girl and got off by snitching on Clemens, he would have done anything to avoid prison including lie.

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The problem with Clemens stuff is MacNamee is about the least credible source ever. He is either a liar or a snitch. He is a rapist and more guilty of rape than young and dumb Mike Tyson.

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The problem is the girl who is acussed of sleeping with denies it and as of yet Clemens has no positive tests. Bonds tests were retested and came back positive. They should do the same with Clemens.

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Too much ado about nothing…Millions of dollars being wasted by our government trying to nab ball players using performance enhancing drugs..its laughable, considering there are so many urgent needs in our economy…who cares…this will not keep me or millions of other fans from going to Yankee stadium or watching their games. MLB was complicit in this…Owners, managers, players know whos using what…as long as it boosted attendance the owners, including the Yanks, turned a blind eye…folks, its just entertainment…The government should use the same zealotry to go after frauds/crooks/congressional people who we trust to manage our penisons/401-k’s and the countries economy…The irony is that MLB, sports press and others “annointed” A-Rod the next homer King, supposedly to “cleanse” the record…Crooked owners colluding to keep Bonds off the diamond so that A-Rod would have a chance to surpass 762…Bonds test in 2003 was clean…Ball players and Investment Bankers are human…if kids need role models they should turn to their parents.

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If Clemens bat incident represent roid rage, what about Paul O’Neill and David Wells moments of insanity?

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If Clemens failed a test he should get life. As of yet there is only allegations.

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Arod is worse than Clemens because he has a positive test and has gone on to act like he’s a saint.

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I have a hard time believing the Yankees knew this and didn’t care. I have more respect for their integrity. I doubt they knew or there would have been multiple clauses in his contract, especially after the Giambi fiansco and how they tried to void his deal.

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So let me get this straight.
First he bring his premadonna i’m better than you and have nothing to show attitude to ny.
then he opts out during the WS.
then he denies Canseco’s claims.
he cheats on his wife resulting in divorce.
Now he has been outed as the fraud he was supected of being.
SOUNDS LIKE A HALL OF FAMER TO ME.

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Our initial response seems to be to do nothing. That would indicate we either knew and/or don’t care. How could we be so nieve to think that records in our uniform won’t be tainted?

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History will determine how we act in response this revelation…….

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Sends a great message to kids, if you do something wrong, don’t own up until you get caught red handed, deny until then, all this adds up to fraud.

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Its too late for admission and/or apologies.

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It boils down to who knew, Texas? NY? MLB PA? If no one knew then he’s a complete fraud he thought he’d never get caught.

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400M for an asterix.

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At the very least if he didn’t come clean, we need to suspend him for knowling deceiving everyone including our front office.

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This bring the validity of the Mitchell report into question, how many other guys slipped through the crack. He should have came forward and copped up, he’s a fraud.

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We have to have an out clause, we should void his deal and prepare for a strike, assuming no one knew of his positive test.

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Let him moved to Kuwati with Madonna.

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He should have came clean long ago, he’s a fraud who denied Canseco’s allegations. He should be kick out of the league.

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If we can void the deal, all of a sudden we would have more money to spend, lots of money.

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Really tired of the A-Rod Soap Opera.

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We tried to find a way to get rid of Giambi and he told the truth, I can’t believe CNN that we put no out clauses in a contract of this magnitude. If Arod was less than forthcoming, I would think we will tell the union that we are gonna try to void the deal.

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Apparently he has been getting alot of calling today from pranksters asking for A-roid.

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See if he had acknowledged his use years ago it would be different but he let the Mitchell report come out and not a word from him.

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Someone email ChazBedlam and get him in on the discussion.

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This thread should break our 400 post one day record. Dude is a fraud and we should all speak our mind.

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As Olney says no one will view him as clean now period.

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And they kept it a secret even when Jose spoke out about him not being in the Mitchell report. They tried to bar Jose from entering the release party for the Mitchell report.

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A-Rod is a total disgrace. I believe his mvps should be stripped as well. That IS pretty sad that mlb would award A-Rod the mvp after knowing he took steroids.

Sean Serrritella

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Clemens never tested positive. There case is limited to testimony from witnesses. Arod won’t say anything because he tested positive.

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I really wish Rodriguez would face some type of punishment. He probably won’t which is a shame. His image will tainted for the rest of his career and he deserves it. Unfortunately that will probably be the worst thing to happen to him.
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In my opinion, the MVP award Stray-Rod won in 2003 should be stripped. Guys like Clemens and Bonds deserve jail time for committing perjury. I have no time for these overpaid drug addicts whatsoever. This is not baseball in my opinion.

However, there’s a bigger issue in play here and that is why did Major League Baseball award the MVP to A-Rod when they knew he tested positive?

How hypocritical is that?

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If there is a non drug clause pertaining to some aderse information we were not made aware and we terminate him without pay, does that mean a strike would result?
On another note, El Duque wants to close but said he would said up Rivera, how old is he?

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Yanknuck said: “I heard this story on WFAN when I was getting ready to go out today, and my stomach literally turned. I could only hope that the four sources from SI are false — though I believe that I am being more naive than hopeful. I’ve always been an A-Rod supporter; however, after hearing this he will have to admit to what he has done and be as truthful as he possibly can. Thank god for Jeter. ”
‘Thank god for Jeter.’ No offense, Yanknuck, but that just makes me sick. I’m as big a Yankee fan as the next one, but can we just stop worshipping him for a little while and be concerned about Alex? Aaaarrrgh!
http://thisfanslife.mlblogs.com

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on another note…i think it’s time for teams to pertect themselves against false investment…even if the teams know or suspect a player is using they need to have some sort of opt out clause…it just mkaes sense…because if a player is performing well beyond his/her natural abilities…and because of testing stops taking the steroids ect. and that player can no longer perform on that level then he/she is not worth their contract…and people begin to breakdown because of use over a long period of time…so it could mean disaster for organizations either way…
it’s time for everyone to fall back to earth and let’s see truly who are the best players…
it’s time for stringent testing for everyone…especially on the minor league level…and let the chips fall…
I HOPE SOMEHOW THE YANKEES CAN GET OUT OF AROD CONTRACT AND RENEGOTIATE WITH HIM…BECAUSE I WOULDN’T WANT HIM FOR 10 YEARS AND 305 MILLION…
I THOUGHT HIS SIGNING FOR LONG AND THAT MUCH MONEY WAS ALWAYS VERY STUPID…the yankees need to know when to say no and draw lines in the sand…and sometimes let players walk…if they ask for too much…other opportunities will come up eventually…and will be better for it….

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Perfect timing…it’s crazy…every year the Yankees have some contraversy right before the start of the season…and it’s usually centered around Arod of course…
but why did they chose to expose him and not the rest…
i smell conspiracy…and i want to know everyone who is has been caught so far in any year…that would bring things into perspective…and i know there are still others who have not been caught…
i also know that everyone is in on it in some way…
The Union The Teams The Agents The Trainers and The Administration(Commissioner)…but why did they chose to expose Arod…Hmmmmm smells fishy…
the yankee fanatic…

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Bpark,
Damon was a great lead-off man last year, and remember, that was his first stint on the DL in his entire career, so he should be/stay healthy all year. Next year I’d have to think that either Gardner or a similar FA type with a higher average and OBP will be our lead-off, potentially Crawford.

By yanknuck on February 7, 2009 12:38 PM
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Damon is our lead off, I am just asking a question.

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Only question to me here is; does SI have a hardon for the Yankees or what? Ok, let’s just look at this logically…

First off; WHO provided the list, or wait who provided ONE NAME on a list of 104? The answer to that question then leads us to whether or not it’s based on total bias or not?

The next question is; is no one liable for disclosing personal information when contractual language stated it was to be anonymous?

The whole point of this is just like when the story broke last yeear; tainting a select few. If you were going after the story that MLB knew and turned the blind-eye, well this story COULD’VE went somewhere towards that angle, but no, it’s all about the Yankees. Seeing that report and knowing there are 103 other people in it tells one that MLB knew the problem was pretty significant, especially so considering no discipline restulted as of this test. Yet, do we see the author mention this? Nope. Must be a Yankee hater. I’m not saying ARod’s clean but what I am saying is enough with trying to taint one player, the witch hunt is soooo old and tired. I realize that we’ll never ‘punish or discipline’ all of those that were complicit, so why are we trying to go after a select few? Isn’t the bigger story the more important story here? That ALL of MLB was in on it to some degree no matter how much wink-wink and nudge-nudging was going on??

SI’s bias in this has really made me rethink their journalistic integrity, not that I really thought they had tons too, maybe we should write a story on that?

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Bpark,
Damon was a great lead-off man last year, and remember, that was his first stint on the DL in his entire career, so he should be/stay healthy all year. Next year I’d have to think that either Gardner or a similar FA type with a higher average and OBP will be our lead-off, potentially Crawford.

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I heard this story on WFAN when I was getting ready to go out today, and my stomach literally turned. I could only hope that the four sources from SI are false — though I believe that I am being more naive than hopeful. I’ve always been an A-Rod supporter; however, after hearing this he will have to admit to what he has done and be as truthful as he possibly can. Thank god for Jeter.

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Bryan, looking at Torre’s book, any thoughts on Jeter as a leadoff hitter?

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PEDs have never been legal, just because sports didn’t test, doesn’t mean it wasn’t against the law and cheating.

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The question is not who tested positive, but who did not test positive. If the full truth comes out, baseball would lose a lot of fans. So be careful who we criticize, some ones hero maybe next. I personally think,90% of the league was juicy and the other 10% was thinking about it, until Canseco.

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Mantle fan – have you looked at Ortiz? One would find it hard to imagine that he ever used PEDs. Okay – the PEDs were legal in 2003 when A-Rod tested positive, but some questions need to be answered – would he had won the HR title & MVP without them? And Why?

Julia
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I doubt Texas told us about this if they even knew. No wonder he’s a fraud, he’s worse than Clemens. Arod tested positive, Clemens did not.

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Would there be a strike if we released him outright citing a termination clause?

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CNN is reporting that their is no drug language in the contract. How could Cashman be so stupid. Arod can take any drugs all day everyday and we’re on the hook for 300M.
I am not convinced with Manny, he blew up like Bonds.

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MLB needs to name everyone on that list. There are 104 players that tested positive. It’s impossible to think David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez didn’t do steroids. This is crap!!!!!!!! That whole list should be exposed for everyone to see.

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Canseco correct again? I wonder how much Rocket paid him. If Arod used steroids in the past, whats to say he’s clean now? I am sure the stuff is still undetectable or they know when the test is coming.

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Were the Yankees aware of this or do we have a Pacman Jones situation? Do we have specific wording in his contract? After Giambi, I imagine we do.

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