The light is still on for Pettitte

If you tuned out a few months ago on Andy Pettitte and just rejoined us … you didn’t miss much. The Yankees and Pettitte’s representatives are still talking.

You probably know the particulars by now: Pettitte has been reluctant to accept a one-year, $10.5 million deal because of the pay cut it represents from the $16 million he earned in each of the last two seasons.

But he said repeatedly last year that his choice is to help the Yankees move across the street (as recently as December in this video interview) and that he does not see himself pitching in another uniform.

Other clubs seem to agree. Astros owner Drayton McLane said Friday he did not see his club entering the stalled negotiations for Pettitte, telling the Associated Press that the Astros are “pretty well set” but “it’s a long time until Spring Training.”

Until further notice, Brian Cashman has said the Yankees would enter the spring selecting a fifth starter from the group of Phil Hughes, Alfredo Aceves, Ian Kennedy, Phil Coke and non-roster invitee Jason Johnson.

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LOL, Pettitte is ahead of Joba with his eyes closed.

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Andy eats innings and I think would be a GREAT 5th starter.C.C. …Wang….AJ…….Joba and Andy, sure looks good to me!

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“I could very well be wrong about this one, but I think a full year of Hughes would be better than a full year of Pettitte.”-Chad Jennings
http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/yankees/archive/2009/01/24/catching-up-on-a-few-things.aspx

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If his success continues, and I hope we all want it to , Coke will not be the first or last pitcher to show dramatic improvement by the addition of one pitch! We shall see.

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Doc Gooden’s response to Kirk R.’s revelations that Doc asked him to pee for him because of cocaine in his system, “LOL”.
Sheff’s response to the same report “Does anyone have a bat I could borrow?” No Sheff didn’t really say that.

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While the light is clearly on for Pettitte, Torre took the light and shoved it up the third baseman’s bleep.

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Robert,

I’m interested in the Phil Coke article if you still have it :).

And as far as having the arm to do it. If we look at Lester when he came up he was throwing around 88-91 before he got sick. Now he is throwing around 93-95 consistently. He attributes this to a superior strength and conditioning program that he is on now. Alot of pitchers don’t go all out and they save themselves as starters for fear of burning out too soon in the game. But if Coke can throw mid 90s out of the pen, he can as a starter, he just needs to build up his stamina. It would be different if he never reached mid 90s in his life but he can reach it. His mind set is different as a middle reliever, he doesn’t have to save himself for later in the game. If he can take the mind set of middle reliever into starting, he would eventually build up the arm strength to last maybe 7 innings. How can you build your arm strength if you’re saving it for later in the game?

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why are the Yankees so focused on Pettitte is he clearly the better choice over-Sheets i know he has a great risk of injury…but he seems to be the best choice performance wise over Pettitte or A.J.
it seems the Yanks made yet another bad choice with their money…
A.J.Burnett although he is comming off a good season he seems just as likely to brake down…it seems and it’s just speculation…but it seems like an investment in Derek Lowe 4 years 15 mill and Ben Sheets for 2 years with a low base salary with incentives is a safer bet because the injury prone pitcher has a shorter deal and if he is paid more it’s because he doing his job…Lowe-Sheets looks as good or better than A.J.Burnett and Andy Pettitte…if we are just comparing ERA’s and durablity…Sheets gives you equal performance with the same or just slightly more injury risk as Burnett and Lowe gives the 200 innings durability with a lower ERA than Pettitte and that investment is cheaper over the long term…Now maybe Burnett has turned the coner and maybe Pettitte will have a strong season…if he comes back…but it’s all up in the air…but Lowe-Sheets is definately cheaper and looks a little better on paper…
the Yankee Fanatic…

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It woud appear that Coke is best suited to be a mid inning situational lefty for Yanks, and could be a big plus in 2009 in that role. Despite success finally in minors in 2008 as a SP in 2008, after nearly maxing out IP and switching to BP, he seemed to really turn it up a notch.

I would prefer to see the Yanks sign a vet 5th starter, whether it be Pettitte, Sheets or whomever, rather than go with two rookies in the Starting Rotation again. Look at what Boston is doing with stock piling options with incentive lade contracts to rehab gambles Smoltz and Penny.

Sheets did have a great first half and was the NL All-Star SP last year….

Hughes, Aceves, Kennedy, maybe even Horne or Wright could be contributers in 2009, but best case scenario is that all start 2009 in AAA.

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It woud appear that Coke is best suited to be a mid inning situational lefty for Yanks, and could be a big plus in 2009 in that role. Despite success finally in minors in 2008 as a SP in 2008, after nearly maxing out IP and switching to BP, he seemed to really turn it up a notch.

I would prefer to see the Yanks sign a vet 5th starter, whether it be Pettitte, Sheets or whomever, rather than go with two rookies in the Starting Rotation again. Look at what Boston is doing with stock piling options with incentive lade contracts to rehab gambles Smoltz and Penny.

Sheets did have a great first half and was the NL All-Star SP last year….

Hughes, Aceves, Kennedy, maybe even Horne or Wright could be contributers in 2009, but best case scenario is that all start 2009 in AAA.

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Despite his relative success as a SP in minors finally last year, it would appear that as Coke showed after nearly maxing out 2008 innings, he is best suited as a MLB mid inning situational lefty out of the BP. In that role, he could be a big plus for Yanks in 2009.

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It’s intriguing… his velocity rises dramatically, just as his workload drops. But his velocity drops dramatically when it increases… sounds like an athlete who’s not well conditioned. He’s got the potential to be a Ted Lilly of some sort but can he grasp it? At this point, it wouldn’t hurt to try him out as a starter in ST to see how he fares; if that doesn’t go well, then leave him in the bullpen where he resides beside Marte

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King,
2008 was the first that Coke was used in relief and only because he had reached his maximum innings starting in AA. He will begin 2009 as a starter. There is a marked difference in his 2008 performance compared to his previous career!!!

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Excellent news that are atleast talking

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I checked the PinstripePlus scouting report on Phil Coke today and here is a quote from Patrick Teale:

“Perhaps the biggest development, however, was his transformation of a slow, slurvy breaking ball into a hard, biting slider. It sits in the 85-87 MPH range and it has finally given him a reliable weapon against lefties”

I read something similar before, but I can’t remember where. So, baring an injury, it would appear that Coke would only slide back into obscurity if he forgets how to throw this pitch! I can’t imagine this is likely. I can E-mail the full report to anyone interested.

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So – what’s better $10.5 million or nothing? Ask Manny & Jason Varitek – they might tell Pettitte to take the money & run!

Julia
http://werbiefitz.mlblogs.com/

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