Winter Meetings: Day 3

Brian Cashman saw some daylight today when his car service dropped him back at the Bellagio from the airport. Many of us never had the same luxury, gasping for air under the crush of news.

Yes, Yankees fans, CC Sabathia is finally on your side, accepting terms of the seven-year, $161 million pact Cashman threw out near San Francisco late last night.

Up in the Yankees’ suite today, Cashman was in another good mood, though weary from his travel. He hid an electronic whoopee cushion machine under a coffee table and had to give it a few playful triggers before saying what he could about the Sabathia deal – which wasn’t much.

Until it’s official, Cashman explained he needs to protect himself from having it go awry, which is why the lawyers need to look through that with a fine-tooth comb. The Yankees aren’t done - looks like A.J. Burnett is next. As Cashman said, “Stay tuned.”

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Let’s be honest people… bolstering the rotation with CC is a good move. Santana, one year ago, was too much money to spend when they didn’t know how their prospects in Kennedy and Hughes were going to work out. Personally, I would keep Hughes in on the rotation because I think for the dollars they are spending (way less than any deal they will make with the old pitchers they want to sign) on him go further to watch him grow into possibly their “ace” in a few years. What I don’t get is why they are so hesitant to mention that Wang is their ace? So what if he doesn’t have the finesse and the strikeouts… it is wins that they want on the board, NOT strikeouts. AND, Wang had the 3rd most wins as a pitcher this season and missed half of it. He can produce what the yankees need, THAT is an “ace”. I will say though that a club can have a couple “aces” in the rotation.
Signing Burnett is a risky move, he is ALWAYS hurt and getting older. He only pitches well when he wants to renew his contract. And, signing the other aging pitchers will turn out to be another Pavano (a waste of 40 mill). You don’t spend millions on a player that had one good season.
They should also sign Pettite. Be a little flexible and give Pettitte an extra 2-3 million and if he doesn’t take it. That’s his issue. If you want to play for a team that bad and the team wants that pitcher, then compromise.
Either way, what is wrong with a rotation of CC, Wang, Joba, Pettite and Hughes?
As for position players… as everyone says here… Cameron is the dumbest thing the yankees could do! Old and expensive for young and relatively cheap AND everything else in numbers pretty much the same. What are they thinking? So what if Cameron has more power… they have a lineup full of guys that can kill the ball (Matsui will be back, Posada will be back, Arod, and the list goes on).
Also not a huge fan of the Swisher deal… pay more for a better “for average” and “for power” hitter in Texeira that will stay for awhile. And who cares if Swisher can play OF… they have more than enough with Nady (who was an alright addition), Damon (who could be better, but really isn’t too bad), Melky (young, with good defense and ability to grow), and Abreu (who they should bring back for a couple years more… he has given them good years and produced with solid enough defense on good money, but short contracts).
Enough said.

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Cameron is a bridge to Austin. He plays defense on a high level. miranda & swisher at firstbase, bridge to Posda or possible jeter in 2 years,

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Censored word is d_o_u_c_h_e

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1 more thing, F the Marlins’ Pres. Sign Pavano & call it a day! Open up your check book & field a better team you ******.

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Just because Cashman offered CC a ton of money does not make him a genious. Einstein, this signing doesn’t erase all of your past blunders. I know he doesn’t read this blog but, do not rent Cameron for 1 year @ the expense of losing Melky for the rest of his career. I don’t like Abreu’s d but I’d rather re-sign him than Kirk Cameron, oops Mike.

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Candy runts ( an unusual name sounds interesting though )

I for one could not agree more, you have summed it up perfectly. The Santana issue was done to absolute death in 08. They didnt get him as the price was far too high and they took the punt and valued their prospects in Hughes and Kennedy in the hope of waiting for Sabathia to emerge. I dont know if they really expected Hughes or Kennedy to emerge in 08 or wanted them to have a year to learn and grow, time will tell on that although if they get one out of the two probably Hughes they will have won hands down. I really view him having an enormous positive impact in 09 but not sure about Kennedy, I cannot agree more about Abreu, he has consistently performed has an enormous upside attitude and he will be very viable for one year maybe two as opposed to Cameron.

Not only will the starting lineup be very strong, the bull pen will be as well especially if they retain Pettite which they will.

Regards

Aussie Bryan

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The Marlins president just bashed the Yankees for the Sabathia deal…………… like its his business or something

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What’s with all the negativity? If someone else brings up Johan Santana again I’m going to have to implode or something – hasn’t it been said enough times already that the Yanks passed on him as they valued their prospects plus the potential free agents in 2009 higher than getting Johan for 08 and beyond?Anyway CC Sabathia is about to become a Yankee and by the sounds of things there might actually be one of the strongest rotations in baseball next year in the Bronx.I would guess the Yanks will probably try to add another bat, who it’s hard to say. Strangely I think it may wind up being our old friend Bobby Abreu.

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well it looks like the Yankees are going to get a AJ or Lowe or Sheets…or maybe two from that group…but this crop of pitchers are all injury risk or just plain old…and signing any combination of these pitchers all mean multi year deals…so this bares the question…where will the young pitching end up…if every slot is taken by veteran free agents…will Phil Hughes Ian Kennedy Andrew Brackmon and all the others just be late september call ups for 3 or more years…and what about Andy Pettitte…
the Yankees seem to have the bad luck or lack of skill when it comes to gambling on which players to give the big bucks.
EXAMPLE…they did not want to take the 5 year 55 million dollar risk on Gil Meche…he instead went to the Royals…he then proceeded to pitch more innings and have a lower ERA than Wang and Pittitte in 2007(216.0 with a 3.67era)and he has did it again in 2008(210.1 witha 3.98) and in the off season between 06 and 07 the year they didn’t get Meche…the Yankees seriously under bid for Daisuke Matsuzaka…and in that same year they seriously over bid for Kei Igawa and paid way too much for a over the hill Roger Clemens…the Yankees always put their money in the wrong place…they miss the boat on the best…(Yohan Santana) then go overboard on the sencondary (CC Sabathia)…will this ever end…?
the Yankees didn’t get Carlos Beltran even though he was willing to come to the yanks for 6years instead of the seven the Mets ultimately paid…but they went out and got and older Johnny Damon for the same money in the following year…and now the yanks still don’t have a centerfielder…yet if they signed Beltran they would have him for a least one more season…and he has better offensive numbers than Damon and plays gold glove D…and Yohan Santana wanted to come to the Yanks but instead they let him go because they wanted to keep their blossoming farm…but they over paid for CC and traded some good young pitchers for Nick Swisher…but they won’t pick up Teixeira… that would have allowed them to maintain the farm…and maybe made a trade for a young cheap centerfielder like the Diamond Backs Chris Young…
and now it looks like they’ll make a trade for Cameron giving up more youth for an older much more expensive version of that youth…all be it with more power…but 1mill for Melky verses 10mill for Cameron doesn’t make sense to me…statistically i just don’t see that big of a difference.
i think they are making a big mistake…Camerons 10mill and Nick Swisher’s 9mill is almost enough to get Teixeira…the Yanks say they don’t want to commit long term on a 1st baseman because they have so many long term deals for aging players and they’ll need to move them over to 1st…initialy Posada and then Arod…but if you ask me this is just another example of giving the wrong player too much money for too long…
we’ll see Yankee fans…
the yankee fanatic…

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I want Sheets too, but I think the realistic contract is going to be a 2 year/28-30 million with perhaps a club option for a third year somewhere in the price range of 14-16 million. I wonder if C.C. will ever get to DH when he pitches, that would be pretty cool… maybe the next Babe Ruth… he’s got the build… you never know.

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I actually think I’m going to be sick… what the HELL are they thinking. Abreu would have cost them virtually the same this year (though he would of had two more years on his contract) than Cameron plus they would keep Melky. I thought they were looking to get younger, instead they are picking up an old over the hill player who costs way to much. I would have loved to see Melky in CF with Gardner shifting AB’s within all OF positions. Also, this will not help Cano’s attitude, seeing how they are so close, playing together in the minors. Hopefully this deal dies.

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I think Sheets for 2/20 is better than Burnett for 5/80. WAY better. Who was the last pitcher we offered that long a contract to that worked out? I think he just retired. And how many before and since that didn’t work out???

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Yeah, this Cameron-Cabrera deal may not happen. Which would be good news. Weren’t we supposed to be getting younger and more athletic? I get that AJax needs more seasoning in the minors, but why do we need a CF-er whose best days are behind him? Isn’t $160 million enough for CC? Does he need a BFF too?

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MLBTR is also reporting that the Cubs deal with Peavy is dead too. Maybe THEY’LL make an offer to Burnett and take him from us… HOPEFULLY!

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Sounds more like the deal is falling thru. (mlbtraderumors.com). Seems we wanted the Brew-crew to pick up some of Cameron’s tab and Mil wanted someone besides Cabrera and we apparently suggested Kei.,….. HAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA… Even the BREWERS won’t take him……

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Cameron is the worst move since Randy Johnson, I assume it was arat of the CC move since they are best friends however, i think the addition of Cameron does nothing but hurt the yankees chances in 09. Good job cashman, you just followed up the move of the year with the dumbest decision ever.

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I just heard about the Cameron news and it sounds like it’s a done deal – I truly do not understand this desperation move by the Yanks! Why onload an young inexpensive player with a potencial upside for an upper 30′s past steriod user that has exceeded his prime. Don’t get it.

If you look at Cameron’s 08′ #’s – 243BA – 25HR – 70RBI – 142SO in 120games – I mean these are horrible #’s for an everyday CF – If you look at Melky’s 07′ #’s when he was an everyday CF he batted 273 with 73RBI in 150 games – granted he only had 8 hr’s but I think if Girardi gives him confidence in 09′ that he is the full time starter – he can produce in the #8 or #9 hole. He’s got descent speed and it an excellent CF. Got to give him time!

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I agree, what is the sense in bringing over Cameron for Cabrera, when you have a career sub .260 hitter replacing a hitter who has more upside than Cameron ever will at this stage? I just don’t get this at all. They’re virtually the same in numbers offensively and defensively except that Cameron has a decade on the kid. Is Melky’s attitude the perceived problem here? The kid brings you pertinere the same with more upside and probably at less cost, so what is the mentality/motivation behind this decision?

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Here is my prediction: A rotation that starts with CC, Burnett and Lowe will not win the WS.

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And yes, lastly, let’s replace an aging 1b slugger with a .250 BA with an aging CF with a .250 BA because I REALLY think we need a 36 year old center fielder on a 3 year contract. I mean we have NO ONE who can DH right now so cool!

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Let’s see…. We sign Burnett (who has now been seen all over the AL East for the last 3 seasons) to 5, the first two of which (if his history plays out) will be somewhere in the 150ip range) followed by a “productive” season and then two more injury plagued. Then at the end, he’s 37 and worthless.

And the Rays sign Abreu to hit 3rd and go on to another AL East title while Abreu quietly puts up another 100 rbi, 25 homer season.

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We’ll regret signing Burnett to anything more than 2+1 years. It may take a year but I see at least half of the contract length with fewer than 25 starts.

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I can’t really see Ben Sheets signing now. He came up through the Brewers system, would he really sign for the Yankees and lose Milwaukee draft picks? Lowe isn’t looking likely now either, AJ Burnett it is then.

The only question left seems to be Pettitte. If it’s Yankees or retirement surely money is out of the equation? How about the Yankees sway a little from that $10mil mark, $11 or $12 maybe, take it or hang up the glove Andy.

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