Yanks drop another; Hank picks up the phone

I thought Hank Steinbrenner had been a little too quiet lately, didn’t you? The Yankees co-chairman had a few comments after last night’s 2-1 loss in 11 innings, and it seems that Hank has been mighty impressed with the Tampa Bay Rays.

Who isn’t? They’re the first place Tampa Bay Rays, after all, and they seem to be playing with a passion and energy that the Yankees aren’t right now. Of course, the Rays aren’t drawing many to Tropicana Field, but those who are coming out are getting a good show.

The Yankees didn’t lose last night because of pitching, not in the least. Chien-Ming Wang kept them in the game for seven innings and Mariano Rivera was bound to give up a run sometime. But where is the offense? At this point, you wonder if they should consider activating Jorge Posada and solely using him as a DH. They won’t, in all likelihood, because his best value to the Yankees is as a catcher and they don’t want to reaggravate that shoulder. But they need a bat from somewhere, and A-Rod can’t be activated soon enough.

Interesting stat in today’s USA Today, which I always try to give a read-through over lunch on the road. The idea, presented by Ron Shandler, is that Robinson Cano’s ‘contact rate’ of 89.4 (at-bats minus strikeouts divided by at-bats) is so high that there’s no way he can continue to be a .183 hitter. That high contact rate – or so it would seem – suggests that Cano has fallen into an inordinate amount of hard luck through the first few weeks of the season.

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This team doesn’t need Pedro Martinez or any other old player who is injury-prone that type of player is completely worthless, and a waste of time, Martinez is probably one or two more stints on the DL from retiring. There’s no guarantee that Tony Pena can lead this team anywhere either. I doubt even Torre could motivate this team. All Torre would do is blindly stick with the same old vets, blindly giving them his confidence while they lead this team down the toilet. That’s why this team got rid of Torre in the first place, it doesn’t need a manager who will do that. It needs a manager with a different approach and start dumping the worthless vets and no-talent players like Betapuke. The days of relying on broken down vets are over!! If anything this organization needs to change its philosophy, and some key personnel if it is going to change personnel on the field.

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That is exactly what Hank plans to do if the only voice of reason, Brian CashMan is not the GM. I wouldn’t be shocked if Hank added Pedro Martinez to the rotation, thats how impatient he is.

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I am still not buying into letting our young players go for older personnel. We need youth on this team. We haven’t won in years by shopping for veterans ONLY. We need a happy mix of both.

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The problem is only Pettitte, Jeter, Rivera and Posada played with Girardi. Girardi is unlikely to carry the same respect from other veterans. Although Girardi was a leader as a player, Jeter is more of leader and when Jeter says he calls Giradi “Joe” and Torre “Mr Torre” that shows a different level of respect from the team’s captain. This is likely shared among most of the veterans. Pena is more respected than Girardi, I bet money on it.

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I do feel a lot of frustration with Girardi at times, some desicions that he has made this season have been poor. But I tend to lean towards patience at time like this, because the thing I fear most of all is Hank becoming like George during our long title drought, where managers were getting hired and fired at a blinding rate. Nothing ever settled down for a long time.

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I meant to say veteran players, some of whom played nd won with him

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We can give Girardi a chance to get us in a huge hole where Pena takes over a non playoff team, no thanks. This isn’t the Marlins and this isn’t the championship teams (with except of about 4 players) Girardi played on.

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I sure hope you are right bpark.

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Call me an optimist, but I am bucking the general trend on this blog right now and saying we need to give Girardi a chance. Let him see out this season at least. He hasn’t done much so far, but he needs time, and we need to be patient with a young manager. Just as we need to give Hughes and Kennedy time, so too with Girardi.

Sure, he managed the marlins for a year, but that is light and day to what he is doing now. These aren’t kids ot there, these are veterans who played and won with him. He needs some time to learn how to manage them, we can’t expect him to be Joe Torre right out of the block.

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All praises go to Alberto Gonzalez, we can keep him as a backup infielder even when Arod comes back.

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Arun, we’re gonna win tonight with Mussina.

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“This is going to get turned around,” Steinbrenner said. “If it’s not turned around this year, then it will be turned around next year, by force if we have to.”

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Manny, CC and others, No Cashman and some young talent moving to get the players Hank wants.

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Well, with Boston dropping one oday, we will either close the gap to 3 games on the Sox or see the Rays go 1.5 clear of everybody.

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The buck stop at Girardi and at the ones who hired him. Torre was able to motivate his players, I had no concern with slow starts under Torre. This year, it like wo, we don’t have Torre.

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Pena would not be a longterm manager, well that could change but he could groom O’Neill while still making the playoffs. Girardi was a great mentor with the Marlins. This job is different, we have alot of veterans, most of which we loyal to and respect Mr. Torre, not all were Girardi’s former teammates. FIRE GIRARDI NOW.

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I just thought of something else that we have failed to mention –
This is how the 2008 Yankees are going to say “farewell to the cathedral”? They are going to phone it in every game? I guess they don’t give a crap about all the greats that actually took PRIDE in wearing the uniform. How disgraceful can you get? As far as I am concerned, they need to say goodbye to the House That Ruth Built by killing every team that shows up to the yard.

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He got fired which was a terrible move. He really seemed to impress with his interview here last year.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Pena was the skipper of the last Royals team with a winning record.

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What do we have to wait until we are 12 games below, 20 behind Boston to make the move? At that point we might as well stay put. Give Pena a chance to win, he’s earned it, don’t give him a team that is out of playoff contention.

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Pena is the first base coach, he is working with parts and has done an excellent job. Giambi’s defense has been solid, he leads the AL in homeruns and probably walks, his hitting is improving. Duncan is not really any position, playing first. Betemit has played first. We really needed a true 1B to backup Giambi not a Tino Martinez but a solid backup. Pena has done an excellent job with what he has.

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The problem is we are expecting a shut out from all our pitchers because our hitting is inconsistent. Mussina has been decent so far, Pettitte retired last year but he is out on the mound.

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For once in a long time, I agree with Bpark 100%. Pena/O’Neil = Playoffs

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Grand Slam off Okajima. 6-3 BMore.

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I was against Torre’s “unofficial firing” at the time and I against it now. Torre and Cashman worked well together, there is virtual zero chance that Cash is back. No one will be able to control Hank not even his brother. Girardi is a puppet. Tony Pena was very impressive in his interview, promote him (add Paul O’Neill as bench coach/future manager), we will make the playoffs.

I am not prepared to go 12 games below, make the move now.

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It’s not the youth movement that is hurting us. I’ll listen to it hurting us short term, but we have to use young players if we want to establish another dynasty. We still need to make moves for talent, as long as they are not on the wrong side of 35. What this team needs to win NOW is obviously a shot in the arm. We can all see that the lineup, for the most part, is just going through the motions. Girardi was supposed to reverse that, and he is failing MISERABLY. I agree bpark, let the campaign begin.

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Fire Girardi campaign begins. Torre could motivate these guys, I have little confidence in Girardi. It may be alittle early to do this but Tony Pena can lead us to the playoffs.

At this rate, Hank is gonna insert himself in as GM and the youth movement with be over in favor of CC Sabithia, Manny Ramirez and possibly Pedro Martinez.

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I am about 1 or 2 years away from making a career change and becoming a sabrmetrician. It just looks like it’s working so well for several teams. Theo Epstein is making team building look easy right now for the Sox.

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http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/neyer_rob/1456664.html

Check this article on teams using statistical analysis.

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Another thing –

We are getting beaten by teams that embrace sabrmetrics. I think it’s time that we explore this new concept in team building further. Meaning, we give Cashman his walking papers.

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As for Cano’s contact rating –
I would rather see a lower contact rating due to waiting for a pitch to hit, a higher walk to strikeout ratio, and a higher batting average. The reason why he puts the bat on the ball so often is because he hits whatever he can reach, and he’s a damn good hitter. Opposing pitchers/catchers watch alot of tape, and it’s easy to get Cano out: keep the ball out of the middle of the plate and he WILL chase one. Cano would be the next player to hit .400 if he would wait for a pitcher to make a mistake.

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Even better, we issue a 100,000 dollar fine to the coaching staff should either of the above occur. Put your money where your mouth is, Yanks! You local fans should boycott a few games until they can show us that they want to win. I’ll bet if we start attacking their wallets we’ll start to see this team playing like we know they can play.

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I say we issue a 1 million dollar fine to the Yankees’ lineup every time they fail to score 4 runs. Then, issue a 1 million dollar fine to the pitching staff every time they allow more than 5. I’ll bet we win out the rest of the season.

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Wouldn’t go as far as to stick a fork in them, but they will definitely stick one in themselves if they don’t wake the hell up! This team needs to start playing with that sense of urgency right now! We need to see Girardi lighting that fire we were promised when we had to let Joe Torre go. We have an entire division of good teams that can kick our butt any night of the week, and I would hope that this lineup starts showing up to the ball game, unless thier bloated pocket-books are too heavy for them to give a crap.

As for Hank’s comments –
He is a gigantic windbag. He blabbers his fat mouth and then does nothing to back up what he is saying. So far, he has made a list of comments as long as my arm, and has either retracted, or failed to follow up, on EVERY one of them. Talk is cheap, you windbag! If you can see, AS EVERY FAN WITH HALF A BRAIN CAN SEE, that this team is playing like a bunch of lollygaggers, then do something about it! Don’t issue another threat with no teeth. C’mon “George Junior”, poop or get off the pot!

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Cano’s inordinate amount of hard luck is due to his recent contract. He doesn’t have to play hard anymore. He’s over-rated and should be sent down to AAA. Forget his last 2 seasons. I’m not down for, “he’s a late starter” BS. We’re going to see this crap until he’s either traded or at the end of his contract when it’s time for him to produce again. I’d rather watch a bunch of minor leaguers than what’s on the field now. Put a fork in this team. They’re done!

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