Scoot over, I’ve got bad news

Can’t say I saw that one coming. We were watching batting practice from the Yankees bench when Brian Cashman walked up and pushed my left leg aside, taking a seat. He’d just received some bad news on Phil Hughes and decided to spill it with an opening statement — cracked rib, not oblique strain, and out until July, not late May.

Go figure. Darrell Rasner, who was 4-0 with a 0.87 ERA in five starts at Triple-A, is going to have every chance at an extended look beginning on Sunday. Rasner recently told The New York Times that he has developed a cutter to offset his curveball. That can only help — you’ll remember Joe Torre used to characterize Rasner as a “touch and feel guy,” which was Torre-speak for soft-tosser who doesn’t dominate anyone. His Triple-A numbers for ’08 suggest that the Yankees might see a different guy on the mound Sunday against Seattle.

They’ve got other things to worry about here as they trail the Tigers, 4-3, in the fourth inning, trying to avoid a series sweep. Ian Kennedy retired seven of the first eight but was hit hard in the third inning, including a Miguel Cabrera triple that was misplayed by Bobby Abreu in right field. They’re still in the game and Nate Robertson has already shown that he’s hittable.

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If Clemens were still dominant, he would have better than he did last season rather than break down late last season and not healthy for the post season. Who wants someone who can’t be relied on when needed most?

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Only Clemens is still dominant of the 3.

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That’s past history, they are a shell of their former selves, it’s not a reason to put this team at risk.

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They have done great thinks for this team, Wells and Clemens have rings and milestones here.

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I think so, just not a fan of mediocrity in the form of “The Savior”, “The Beer Guzzler” or MESSina!!!

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Go figure we are fans of the same team.

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Too bad you can’t “The Savior” or Wells money, you can call them an ambulancethough, when they get injured again!!!!!! LMAO!!!!

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Mussina win 15 games? LMAO!!!!!! Yeah right, and they are going to bring back a broken down pitcher in Roger “The Savior” Clemens and the David “THe Fat Beer Guzzler” Wells. Not going to happen!!!

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3 and 3 from Mussina should = 15 wins, I imagine Pettitte will get around that 16, 20 out of Wang and we’re on the right track. Ian Kennadia could be gone as early as today with a 4 man rotation with a 5 spot starter a couple of times in may.

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I always had a good feeling about Wang seeing as his name in my native Malaysia means money. And make no mistake, this is a money pitcher.

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bpoop,

The way the offens has been this season, nothing is a sure thing. Need to take it game by game right now.

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD May 2, 2008

Durham (Rays) 1
Scranton/WB 6
W: S. White (2-1, 3.21); L: B. Hendrickson (2-2, 2.93)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_02_dubaaa_swbaaa_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Durham (Rays) 3
Scranton/WB 4
W: S. Patterson (1-0, 4.38); L: C. Medlock (1-1, 1.35)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_02_dubaaa_swbaaa_2&t=g_box&did=milb
Portland (Red Sox) 0
Trenton 1
W: P. Coke (1-1, 4.91); L: M. Bowden (1-3, 3.26); SV: M. Gardner (4)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_02_prtaax_treaax_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Tampa 8
Sarasota (Reds) 0
W: R. Pope (2-2, 2.67); L: R. Gonzalez (1-1, 5.63)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_02_tbyafa_sarafa_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Augusta (Giants) 10
Charleston 6
W: C. Clark (2-0, 2.52); L: N. Castillo (3-2, 3.31)
HR: CHA: B. Baisley (1).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_02_augafx_crdafx_1&t=g_box&did=milb
You may also see http://www.yankeesdaily.com for details.

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Yaaayyy!!

Man I’ve been telling you guys… Wang is focused, he has a chip on his shoulder. I like his determination to improve and focus.

A pretty good showing by the O, if we can do that to Bedard, we should be pouncing on a lot more pitchers! Lifetime he’s about 50% w/l now but still, he’s one of the more decent ones out there.

I’ll be happy for tonight at least… :)

Let’s go Moose, your turn! Ahem, let’s go O!!!

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Nah, maybe I’m exxagerating a little… maybe not. I dunno, I’m ecstatic.

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Six and Zero. I expect something in the range of 19-22 victories for Wang this year. Cy Young or not.

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Hey guys, I think we should change Wang’s name from Chien-Ming Wang to Ace Wang. No, I do not think it’s too early, we need to start giving this man the credit he deserves. He is our ace, period. He had his struggles in the postseason, but I didn’t hear anybody saying that in 06′ against the Tigers. He struggled just like any other player would struggle, it just came at the wrong time.

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If Posada has the surgery after the season, he could miss all of 09, rotator cuff surgery can take up to 2 years to full recover.

Kennedy down-Rasner up? Veras took Hughes’s spot.

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Mattress,

With 6 and 0 on the mound we have enough offense to kick mike tyson’s teeth in. Wang is close to a long term deal, he just needs to do this in the postseason.

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meant to say gets the. Man i miss the old blog.

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phew. Joba ets t job done in the 8th. Man that Ichiro scares me.

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wang is just as impressive as ever this year… he shows no signs of slowing down… his sliders are lookin’ very very good :))

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Joba the Hut up in the ‘pen, if he’s his normal self, this game is just about in the books.

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thank god farnsworthless has become worthful for tonight… lets keep the lead for Wang, and lets win it for the yankees tonite!!!

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Oh no, For-what-it’s-worth is warming up in the ‘pen. Now, I’m going to tell you guys something, now that I’ve gotten a look at Farnsy’s windup.

1. Release Point- This guy does not hide his release point at all. I’m not saying it is necessary, but, read below.

2. Bad control- He can be wild, all over the place, and he has no deception whatsoever, he gets by sometimes because of his “stuff” or the exceptional movement and speed he puts on his pitches.

3. Weak mentally- I know when Farnworth is frustrated, and as a hitter, when I get a pitcher frustrated, I can really feed off of that.

Of the three sticking points up there, the most important are his release point which is just out there for guys to see it, I mean, the more time a guy has to see the ball out of a pitcher’s hand, the better, and his control is erratic, which adds to his demise, and he wears his heart on his sleeve, which isn’t bad, but isn’t good either.

As I speak, this is one of those outings where he’s getting buy on his “stuff”. Wang is not a fastball-oriented pitcher ( even though he throws 94-96 mph), and, at this point, guys are just coming off of seeing more sinkers and twoseamers, not fastballs and sliders.

Hope you guys enjoyed the analysis and maybe now you can understand the difficulty little ( for thos ewho don’t play ).

Let’s se how Farns gets by in the eighth, ifthere is one for him.

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Definately Wang will compete for the CY if he keeps his era around 3 and the wins rack up to 20.

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oh wow. Farnsy was impressive there. Now time for Joba and Mo to hopefully wrap this up

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Farnsworth – eh? Girardi must be worried about Wang he’s only pitched 90 deliveries

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NO!! Farnsworth s coming in!!

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It’s play like that that makes Ichiro the best lead off hitter in baseball.

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Cy Wang? It may be little premature but that’s just how he is pitching right now.

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bleedin’ Ichiro though. Talk about getting it done on your own. The kind of play we could have done with against Detroit

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Now this is baseball. And we swere so wuick last off-season to stick Melky into a trade package for No-han. I’m not knocking Johan– in any way– he’s having a great season, though he could be better ( than again he’s always a second half type pitcher. ) Wang is looking beautiful on the mound. He’s throwing his slider, sinker, two-seamer and fastball … for strikes. Unhittable. Oh, another victim!

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great. Wang’s got some injury. Oh well 5 innings no runs. Let’s hope he can carry on, those relievers could do with an easy night

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mannnnn i hope everything’s ok with wang’s fingernail or thumb wutever it is… Lets go Wang!!!!!!

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more or less. Funny how other than Melky, our other MVP-esque performer is Wang – the other guy who’s earning far less than his performance so far warrants.

Great speed from Gonzalez – when was the last time a Yankee scored on a double from 1st?

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What really upsets me is the fact that at the current time, Melky Cabrera is hitting the best on the team. I’m not trying to take anything away from Melky, because he is an up and coming prospect; but the fact that no one else on the Yankees seems to be hitting as well as him. Even if they are… there getting paid millions of dollars compared to what this “kid” is being paid… I don’t know about the rest of the fans, but I couldn’t be more upset with Giambi and Cano right about now…

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Thanks, Jeremy, on your ESPN rant! I have been saying the same things for several years now. If you look back when Joe Morgan and Jon Miller started doing the Sunday night baseball game, Miller was pro-Yankee and Morgan was anti-Yankee. It seems that in the last few years, their roles have reversed. At least Morgan tries a few balanced comments every once in a while. ESPN as a whole is unashamedly pro-chowdaheads and is blatantly proud of it. As for Fox, If Joe Buck isn’t on Theo’s payroll, I’d be surprised. I’ve gotten to the point that I mute ESPN or Fox and listen to MLB GameDay audio on my computer with WCBS 880 New York. The timing is way off but at least I don’t have to listen to the Bo-servants! In order to test my perception, I carefully watched and listened to TBS’ coverage of the Yanks-Indians game last Sunday. A great pitchers’ duel, as you recall, but their call was as close to balanced as I have heard a Yankees game in a long time. Further proof, Jeremy, that your comments are spot-on!

Sounds like you’re a Raiders fan – a suffering we share. I became a Raiders fan three years after I realized I was a Yankee fan (like my whole family) – in 1967 when I was 10! I was at the very first bat day at Yankee Stadium in 1965 as an 8 year-old. Like many of you, no one could remotely describe me as a far-weather fan.

At this point, we’re all disappointed. Part of that lies in the high expectations we always have for the Yankees. But remember, the season is a marathon, not a sprint. Baseball is one of the most quirky sports to call and can turn at any time. The Yankee Universe and MLB will rebalance and the Bombers will be at the top when it counts in late September – much to the disappointment of those fans of other teams with the biggest mouths right now.

I’m ready for the turnaround to start tonight with Wang and beating Bedard! Go Yanks!

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I would rather see Steven White given a chance than either Rasner or Igawa. At least White has shown a lot of success at the minor league level.

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When your big hitters are not in the groove, or your starting pitching are not getting the job done, one other part of the game help you through “Speed”. If the Yankee’s are not the slowest team in baseball. Hit and Run the batters swings and misses Yankee base runners they are out at second, not even close. Speed help you break out by running. Balls hit in the alleys they can’t run it down. The Yankees are not playing fundamental baseball. I also think Phillip Hughes is another Carl Provano(whatever his name is) hamstring injury while pitching, now broken ribs. They better feed that kid. His body is in worse shape then mine.

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Unfortunately, Chamberlain won’t be converted into a starter unless this team can find a replacement for him in the pen. Too bad, he’s being wasted as a setup man for Rivera as it is, especially with the pathetic shape the starting rotation is in which is why he has been rarely used in a setup role this season as had been hoped. Yes holding a team down over 2 innings is important, but it doesn’t mean a whole lot when the offense has yet to show up for the ’08 season, and is incapable of playing catch up. It’s also not the role of a setup man to try to hold the other team down when behind in a game. He’s there to bridge a gap between starter (or a reliever) and closer. Again, it’s more important to have a dominant pitcher like Chamberlain in the rotation who can hand the lead over to the relievers otherwise a pitcher like Chamberlain is being wasted.

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bpark,

Clemens is not the best option merely for the fact that he is injury prone. The Yanks can’t rely on him to stay healthy the whole season nor be healthy when the team needs him most like last post season. Also , the Yanks with their pathetic offense couldn’t smack Bedard around with or without A-Rod. They looked pretty bad against him last season.

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So far the only ones with a CHANCE are Wang, Mo, and Joba. I guess if Matsui continues he might have a shot too. That might be it.

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So I just saw on the Yankees.com homepage that you can start voting for the All-Star game already. Well, as the All-Star game is held at Yankee Stadium for the last year of its historic existence…which Yankee actually has a chance of making it?

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We will smack Bedard’s teeth in without Arod, Giambi and Posada.

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Bedard will shut the Yankees down tonight. Last season the only Yankee to hit him consistently was A-Rod (3-8,BB, 1HR)

Collectively we were 11 for 72 against him, although 9 of those hits came in the Bronx.

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I live in OC, CA & have been a Yankees fan since I was 6 yrs old in 1976. Do the math. I’ve seen a lot of crappy Yankees teams in my life. This one is playing like the crappiest! I say gut this team and start over. They’re only 3 games out & are lucky. This season is what it is….over. Call it frustration on my part or call it being real. Even when/if Posada & A-Rod come, it’s not going to help. I’m still going to wear my Yankees hat & still take flack from the Anaheim fans out here. Go Yanks & don’t finish behind the Rays!!!!!

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hey elfman dun worry bout it i feel ur frustration. but i try not to look back and sweat over the past. we needa start winning games, and its gonna START TONIGHT!!!

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oh i was soooo hopin’ bynum could be back for the playoffs, by your right its better that he recovers 100% to start the next season. meanwhile pau should be adequate this year. Wuts most interesting about bynum is not only his size but the fact that they kid’s 20 yrs old and already so dominant and he’s gonna be the face of the franchise for the next 15 years. Under the mentorship of kareem, he’s gonna be the next center-stage since the shaq era.

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Oh and JeterStar… no it’s not you, you’re spot on, ESPN has revealed themselves as Yankee haters. There’s no question about it, and there’s no defense anyone at ESPN can produce to make me feel otherwise. I’ve completely written them off for any sort of insight that can be considered even remotely in the realm of objectivity. I realize we all have our biases, but really it’s pathetic.

I have never in my life taken satisfaction out of seeing another team do poorly for the sake of using that as some tool to run in another fans face. I just don’t see the point. When the Raiders suck, they suck. I don’t spend my time rubbing it into Denver fans or San Diego, Kansas City fans… it never enters my mind. I believe in sportsmanship. Sure, a lil smack talk at gametime is fine, but obsessing more for your team’s rival is indicative of envy than it is pure “interest”.

I don’t follow the Red Sox so I can go find a fan to razz at any moment. I find that pretty pathetic. Compare and contrast yes… but the obsession factor is ridiculous.

I guess that’s part and parcel to being a fan of the greatest team in all of sports, but when it comes to a broadcasting company, that’s inexcusable. ESPN gets no play from me. I may turn it on to see a scoreboard, but more than likely I’ll just check online because really I’ve had enough of their so-called insight and ‘expertise’, they claim to have.

If Steve Phillips is such a good ESPN GM, then why doesn’t he have a job as a real GM? Same goes for each and every one of them down the line. You know what they are? They’re talking heads and nothing more. They’re like those paparazzi shows, there to do nothing more than create controversy. ESPN takes it beyond that even though… and it’s sickening. I remember the days when Van Earl Wright was on doing SportsCenter and he and many people back then we’re good, but they’ve morphed into one ugly beast. I loathe them, really I do.

Joe Buck, Joe Morgan, Peter Gammons, John Kruk, ALL of them… they’re haters. I don’t care one iota who they like or don’t, they’re paid to call a game or to comment on fact. And they’ve completely gone away from doing those things, they’re all about conjecture and opinion and I have no time for it, they should pay me if they want me to hear theirs, because I’m expecting to hear objectivity.

Ok ESPN rant complete… back to your regularly scheduled blogging… ;)

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I for one want my money’s worth. I’m going to all the ones in the Seattle series and I want to see some wins. Those tickets are a heck of a lot of money and I want to see it’s worth. Seriously this new stadium should be called “ticket holder’s field”…. it’s our money building it isn’t it? I’m not a basketball fan so no disappointment for me in that genre, I’m topping off my sports weekend with my version of disappointment which is the Ranger game I think on Monday. I want the Yankees to hit. I know I’m gonna get good pitching tonight because it’s Wang on the mound. But I’ve been such bad luck lately watch how he’s gonna suck tonight. But the Rangers won yesterday with me there so maybe I’m good. Hey, may just started. We got a whole month to win some games and start up a decent record and get over .500.

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hc97,
I apologize. I didn’t mean to say that Mo was the reason that we lost. He imploded in that ONE GAME. He actually did really well in that series. You’re right, it’s a whole team thing. I’m just saying that since Mo is the greatest reliever of all time, the Yankees got themselves to the point that they’d sign for every time: game 7 lead with Mo coming in to close it out. He screwed up that day. That’s all. He didn’t single-handedly lose the series just like Arod hasn’t single-handedly lost any series.

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Fairweather fans huh. I wonder how many of those ‘fans’ were fans before 2004? A couple of titles and they think they are the Yankees all of a sudden.

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Yes, my dad and I were discussing this long before the season and we both were grimly of the opinion that it IS going to be a long season.

It’s been MANY years since I/we as Yank fans have had to endure this type of season, or beginning to one. I for one though do not see the current trend changing.

It’s ok really, if this season turns out to be a non-compete for the division, then yes, we’ll get plenty of flack as having a 200 million dollar payroll and being unable to compete is going to warrant some flack.

But as far as I’m concerned, we’re still headed the right direction. Hughes will be a good MLB pitcher I have no doubt. Kennedy is starting to concern me in that regard. Why we’re still toying with Joba I have no idea. Let the kid get ready to start so he’s READY for next season. How much longer do we need to leave him in the pen to assure he won’t meet his IP limit by Sept? Not that I agree with that entirely but if that’s their gameplan, then that’s what it is.

We also dump a lot of salary and aging players that arguably are hindering our offense as a whole.

If it’s a rebuilding time in NY, then it is. I’m a fan and always will be. I was perusing some CBSSportsLine posts and see the Sox homers are out in force laying into Yankee fans, berating them as fairweather fans.

I refuse to get into urinating matches with people who completely generalize, but for those that are, who really cares? Same as Sox fans that are fairweather or any team for that matter, their true fans could care more about them, they’re just in it cause this team or that team is winning. I just can’t stand it when they lump us together though. There’s a huge difference between fairweather and disappointed. I see disappointed fans here, and for good reason. However, this time was inevitable. We’ve been throwing money at problems and not making sound decisions as to backfilling spots vacated by age or contracts, for the most part. Cabrera is a capable replacement to Bernie, no doubt. But other than that, what have we really done? Starting Pitching, nope. Relief, NOPE. Bench, not really, no. Abreu was a good pickup in place of Sheff, no doubt about it. Damon, ick. Sui, I love the guy but he appears to be in the latter stages of his prime, he can still hit very well but I think his legs and knees are making him a defensive liability. Molina, fair… but he is still the backup so not like he should be considered like the rest. Giambi, well… threat of power doesn’t mean much if you can’t wield it or display it. He is not bad, but could we do better? Probably.

All in all, not surprised at this. Surprised at the same philosophy though. Heck why did we need to rid ourselves of Torre if we’re still conducting business as if he IS still here? That’s my main gripe and source of confusion. I expected something different.

But, it is the first year of new management… I’m not calling for anyone’s head; I’d just like to see some semblance of an identity from this coaching staff and by-golly I just don’t see it.

My dad usually give me grief because I am a die-hard, I’ll watch games ’til that painful last out on the losing end. But, I’ve grown tired of it. I just don’t see the point in getting worked up (read: Passionate) over my team’s lack of fervor and enthusiasm, effort, all of it. If that’s the product they’re going to feed us, well then they shouldn’t complain if we choose not to eat it. I’ve already paid for the dinner, but doesn’t mean I’m going to eat if it I know it’s going to make me sick! LOL

So, as for last night, I had seen enough. I was not going to watch the full implosion, again and again and again. I’d rather do the NY Times Crossword puzzle from the Sunday edition than watch that!

Something needs to be done to shake this team up some I guess, otherwise, well… I don’t know what we can really expect. We can hardly beat, beatable teams, so what do we really have to hang our hats on? Oh I know… NEXT YEAR! ;)

But, no matter what, always a Yankee fan!! That doesn’t mean we have to be sheep to the slaughter. We can let management know we’re not happy with the product and still be fans.

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Yo hc97, as good as the Lakers are this year, and they are championship level good, imagine them next season with Andrew Bynum back in and Gasol beating up opposing power forwards.

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jeterstar: i also HATED the spurs hahaa (well except for tim duncan overall he’s a class guy)… if anything they will forever be named the team that cant repeat back to back year. But if any team is to beat the lakers it’d be the spurs, not celtics not pistons. I hope the hornets could take care of them for us.

Moose been ok except last season he lost credibility from me when he starts giving excuses for his poor outings (weather, time etc)

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I actually hope the Lakers win it all this year, as long as the Spurs don’t win, I’m cool. Anyways Moose has been a decent signing. It bothered me when Mussina never retaliated when Soriano and Jeet were hit by Pedro M. and sent to the hospital a few years ago, he never seemed to have his player’s backs, other than that Moose has been ok.

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arun, i live in LA. i’m a huge laker fan, but a die-hard yankee fan for life.

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elfman: u cant keep bringing up stuffs like that just becoz ur frustrated. U cant put the entire world on Mo that year just like how we put the entire 05 and 06 blame on Arod and 07 on Wang.

You never win with one player and you never lose with one player, thats why we have a 25 man roster in baseball plus the MGR and COACHES.

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hc97, your a Laker fan as well? Cool.

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Moose is our best ever free agent pitcher signing in the Cashman era. It’s not his fault he doesn’t have a ring. He did his job in 01 and 03.

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jeterstar: i am in a better world than you are, my lakers are waiting patiently for whoever comes out of houston/utah series LOL

back to our yanks, i know its stressful, but keep ya head up will ya? injuries happen and compare today against this time last year, i’d take today any minute…. at least we dont have the red sox or the tigers sprinting away like they did last year

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I’m in a bitter, salty mood, I hate everybody….between my sorry Dallas Mavericks, and the freakin’ Yankees, I feel like punching someone square in the nose, I really don’t know why I ever started following sports, I can’t take the stress, I HATE LOSING. Is it me or does ESPN seem exicted and giddy when they report on Yankee injuries, almost like they are rubbing it in or something.

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hc97. You MIGHT be right……. I sure hope not…. Well…. Ok, sure, why not.

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Also, you have to remember that if Mariano doesn’t completely melt down in the 9th inning against the bottom of the order (let me remind you that this included giving a up DOUBLE to WOMACK, hitting a guy, and committing an error), Moose has a ring.

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moose has been a decent signing. he definitely is worth the contract. i even think this additional 2 yr is worth signing, knowing now how hughes and ipk are struggling, moose has been somewut of a factor to keep us at least in the ballgame.
But has he been that great? idk… we just dun seem to get that number 27 since he arrived. Is that all his fault? noe… but u definitely have to agree the guy is deteriorating as the years go by…

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Now Moose has plenty of stinkers in the postseason, I totally admit that. The last few years have been pretty crappy for him but I would say that has more to do with the fact that he’s on the downside of his career than his not being a good postseason pitcher. Right now he is only a #5, you’re right about that. But that’s what happens to pitchers who don’t juice when they’re 39 (ahem Rocket). They get worse. It happens. It doesn’t mean you can overlook what he’s done with the Yankees.

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Now about Moose’s postseason, he hasn’t been Beckett-like, but he’s certainly been good. Just because you don’t remember his good outings doesn’t mean he didn’t have them. Do you remember the “Jeter-flip game?” Moose went 7 innings and gave up 0 runs in that elimination. That’s a big-time performance. In the 2001 WS, he got bombed in Game 1, but do you remember what he did in his next game? He went 8 innings and gave up 2 runs and struck out 10. That was in the World Series. It also put the Yanks up 3-2 in the series. That’s another big-time performance. We all remember Mr. Brosius’ moment, but we forget who started that game. Do you remember what he did in his next World Series performance? He only outdueled a pitcher by the name of Josh Beckett to go 7 innings giving up 1 run (Beckett gave up 2) and striking out 9.

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golf99: i think u gonna see moose next thursday hahaa… with the off day, they planned to skip kennedy on wed, and AM I THANKFUL FOR THAT??? its a nationally televised game, i’d rather have wang on the mound than kennedy and wang deserves all the opportunities to pitch on 5-day rest, as he (sinkerballers) tends to throw harder with an extra day of rest …

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bpark: u juz wont ever give up on clemens eh? hahaa but tis ok i understand everyone has diff opinions and diff hopes, but the bottomline we all wish for the same thing, no 27 :)

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jhtravers,
First of all, I only defended Moose, not Giambi. Although Giambi has had his moments, I think he’s been a disappointment overall. Now back to Moose…he has not been an “Ace” per se, but tell me who was the “Ace” in late 90s. They had a bunch of really good pitchers, no aces. Every once in a while a Clemens, or a Cone, or a Pettitte would have a great year, but none of them were ever “Aces” for the Yankees.

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Elfman, cannot disagree with you more on Mussina & Giambi, that you forgot to mention. Aside from three innings of strong relief in the 2003 playoff game 7 against Boston tell me just when has Mike pitched well in the playoffs. Moose came to the Yankees with ACE written all over and he has NOT been that ace. Right now he is a 5 inning pitcher, a shell of his previous self and a disaster for the bullpen. Giambi was signed to replace Tino. He is nowhere near Martinez. He is not an adequate fielder and has NOT put up near the numbers that were expected. At least he had the guts to “admit” steroid use. What bothers me is that the recent GM cannot seem to get pitchers through free agency or develop them in the minors. Thus you have a struggling ballclub looking at a long long season.

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Clemens is better than any other option. He was 6-6 last year because we could win his games. He gets a 2 hitter no decision against Boston, he also had several games blown by the pen as did Pettitte. Clemens pitched a partial season and we obviously rushed him before he was ready.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080502/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbn_brewers_turnbow_1

Here you go. Want to sign a “proven” reliever? And he’s one ugly cuss…..

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The good news is, based on the rotation as it is currently, Wang will pitch the get-away game next Thursday afternoon, which my Dad, son and I will be at! WOO HOO!!!

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BPark,
You are putting a serious hurt on your baseball credibility here. Just what is Clemens going to do for us? What he did last year?? A 6-6 record with stints on the DL? We ought to be able to get that from some combination of our farm. You keep bringing up his 2-hit games against the SUCHS. If you must do that, then maybe we go back to Hughes’ no-hit bid from last season and keep him on the roster too? Maybe his performance in the WS last year (WHEN HE BAILED OUT Clemens). Wells? His last decent season was 2005 with the SUCHS. Please note he hasn’t thrown a ML pitch in 2008. You really ought to stick to stuff you know because it appears that baseball really isn’t it.
We’re now stuck with what we have. Igawa will be up on the big club soon with Rasner. Dan Giese will likely get a look see too. As I’ve plainly stated, Rasner’s AAA performance gives him an automatic look. If anyone thinks we can just offer up Melky and Hughes and automatically sign three relievers that will throw 2.1 eras in 60 innings with 59 K’s, you are seriously deranged. It just doens’t happen. If it did, LaTroy Hawkins would have a .75 era instead of 7.5. Get with it. It JUST DOENST HAPPEN that way. Again, middle relievers are there because they can neither START nor CLOSE reliably. Joba needs to stay right where he is. In the last two weeks, we’ve lost only 1 game by more than 2 runs. We’re staying in these games and having the last two innings of a game pinned down cannot be underrated. I could see if we were getting blown out every game (a la last year) and Joba was just getting work in but his importance in the 8th (or an out or two in the 7th) at the spot we’re at right now CANNOT be under estimated. Pitching IS a problem for us, but right now it is not a BIGGER problem than our tepid offense. I am truely surprised at how Joe is handling this team right now. Cano is right where he belongs. The 8 hole. I say he sits the bench for Gonzales for a couple games. No one will argue his potential. He’s proven it. But potential doens’t win games or pennants. Drew Henson had potential too and 8 years later he’s doing what? Giambi sits too. Let Duncan get some AB’s. Right now he already has 1/4 of the hits Giambino has and he got a clultch hit last night to tie the game. We have absolutely nothing to lose in these moves. The Hughes issue has taken care of itself. Kennedy is another story and last night did nothing to help him as he continues to be beaten down by the “bad inning”.

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Arun – I couldn’t agree more – everyone though Roger was going to save the team LAST year – and what did we get? A couple good games but THAT’S IT. If he was that shaky last year can you imagine what he’d be now??? No thanks!!! Besides, after all the steroids/affairs – does anyone really want him to be the influence for our young pitchers? Yikes!

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I mean, with starting pitching at a premium, Roger would have been snapped up long ago if he had anything left in the tank. I think he is just going to retire. Either that or no team wants a piece of him. Either way, I personally believe signing him would be a step in the wrong direction.

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And personally I want nothing to do with Roger. Forget the character allegations, he simply isn’t a pitcher who can help this team anymore.

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Who did we get suspended?

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We had a guy suspended for dope yesterday. Our first suspension I believe?

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Roger Clemens is the only option.

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Too bad Bill Parcells is a football guy, the Yanks could use him or someone like him so he can turn this organization around like he has done with teams like the Pats and Cowboys. Oh well, at least my Phins have him and he is already off to a good start, at least I have that.

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Does anyone else find it ironic how Wang (5-0) lost his arbitration case but Cano (.151) won his? And Wang was only asking for .6 million more! That’s POINT six.

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And lastly, when the Yankees “missed” on Ortiz, he was a .250 hitter with about a .450 slugging percentage, who couldn’t play first base to save his life, and who couldn’t make it through a season. The Red Sox had no clue what he’d become. No one did. HE didn’t.

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Also you mentioned how their getting Mussina was a BAD thing. Well, he’s been by far their most valuable and most consistent pitcher since 2001. He has a 106 – 66 win/loss record (62%) which is excellent and despite his recent struggles, has actually been quite a good postseason pitcher as well. He was actually a terrific signing for the Yankees and probably one of the best this past decade.

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jhtravers,
The Yankees have ALWAYS relied on free agency to get pitching. Roger Clemens, David Wells, David Cone, Jimmy Key. Really the only “homegrown” Yankee pitcher of the “dynasty” was Pettitte. I mean I GUESS you could count El Duque, but they basically just outbid everyone for him which is basically free agency. Name all the great homegrown Yankee pitchers over the history of the franchise. Ever wonder why the Yankees only have two pitchers with over 200 wins in franchise history when they are the winningest franchise in baseball history? The Yankees have built the greatest franchise in sports history through trading for and signing free agent pitchers.

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Totally agree. They’re not making the opposing pitchers work. This whole team looks unmotivated and lifeless, then again, if you were making millions of dollars a year, where would you find motivation? Just going through the motions, I guess. Does anyone feel, that now that Cano got his contract extension, that he’s no longer motivated to give it his all? Just a thought.

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You ever get the feeling you are watching a group of overpaid players who collect paychecks and can care less about what it means to be a Yankee? I am glad I don’t have to watch this, just tune in on the computer via yahoo or espn. They stink!!! One of the reasons I wanted Girardi is I believed he’d get after this lackluster performance. Where is the passion Joe?

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Well we may have made the Tigers look like Cy Young Candidates but there’ll be two on the mound tomorrow, looking forward to it!

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0-3 against Rogers, Bonderman & Robertson. That is pathetic. Good job we weren’t facing decent pitching like what the Red Sox & Blue Jays just threw at each other this week or it would have been ugly.

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I’m not sure how many more of these games I can watch – SO ANNOYED!!! I waited all winter for THIS? I’ve been turning them off every night around the 5th inning, disgusted. Since when do the Yankees swing at the first pitch and make an out? Whatever happened to the team with the reputation of working every opposing starting pitcher to 100 pitches by the 5th inning? NOT ANYMORE!!!!! They’re making the Tigers staff look like Cy Young candidates!!!

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Believe me I’ve been frustrated since 2001 with this franchise. When they try to get pitching via free agency they get the likes of Kevin Brown, Carl Pavano etc etc. They get Giambi and Mussina while missing on Ortiz and Beckett. Their minor league system produces very little at times. Is Cano hurt? This guy looks defeated at the plate. I realize it is May but man this team looks lifeless and defeated. Maybe it is time for Girardi to go off on this team.

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this is awful. Good luck with the offense getting going this weekend. Bedard, Hernandez, Carlos Silva (3-0, 2.79)

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD May 1

Durham (Rays)
Scranton/WB POSTPONED
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Trenton 4
Connecticut (Giants) 5
W: S. Palazzolo (2-0, 0.96); L: D. McCutchen (3-2, 2.33); SV: S. Romo (8)
HR: CT: C. Sosa (2).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_01_treaax_nrwaax_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Tampa 5
Sarasota (Reds) 2
W: M. Dunn (1-1, 2.76); L: A. Smit (2-3, 5.81); SV: J. Hovis (4)
HR: TAM: T. Battle (3). SAR: C. Valaika (6).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_01_tbyafa_sarafa_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Augusta (Giants) 6
Charleston 3
W: T. Brewer (2-2, 4.50); L: L. Pendleton (1-2, 5.40); SV: D. Turpen (4)
HR: None.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_05_01_augafx_crdafx_1&t=g_box&did=milb
You may also see http://www.yankeesdaily.com for details.

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This is depressing. What will it take for this team to get going? The starting pitching can only do so much. If the bats stay as aweful as they’ve been, it doesn’t matter who’s on the mound. We need to score some runs!! I’d hate to see the stats for runners left on base. What do we have…three two out hits all season. Maybe the pope having mass at the stadium will help, no wait, I got it, how’s Billy Crystal’s 4 seamer? probably faster than Moose’s. Don;t mind me, I’m just frustrated.

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I’d suggest trading with the Rangers for Millwood. At least he’ll give you innings. As far as Igawa send him back to Osaka. The guy is a AA pitcher if that. As far as I am concerned this season ought to end the Cashman years as GM. Enough is enough Brian. I hope the younger Steinbrenners’ get a baseball person to run their operation. Thank God the rest of this division is almost as bad or this team would be done already and it is only May 1st.

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Yup!! Back to the old ways.

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Well the Yanks have only just started trying recently. Hey come the end of the season they’ll probably give up and empty the farm and the bank accounts at anyone and everyone.

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No real viable options available on the FA market this offseason, and this team wasn’t willing to deal for Santana. Ther are two really good prospects in the minors who could become solid starters in Marquez, and Horne, but Horne has been injured and Marquez is struggling in AAA. Unfortunately the only options remain Igawa, and Rasner.

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This is going to be a LONG LONG season. I would like to have faith in this team but I don’t see it happening. What I am disappointed in is that the starters continue to register short stints. 2-4 innings per start over a 162 season is going to take its toll on all middle relief. For the life of me I cannot understand why this team cannot develop or get some solid starting pitching.

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No loss for Kennedy…one day, a win…maybe.

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