Busy night in the Bronx

Plenty to talk about at Yankee Stadium as the Yankees have returned home for a nine-game homestand, opening up with Kenny Rogers and the Tigers.

First, the festivities: The Yankees called a 3 p.m. ET press conference to announce their plans for the All-Star Game this July in the Bronx, including the All-Star FanFest to be held at the Javits Center in Manhattan. Derek Jeter and Yogi Berra were on hand for the conference in the Stadium Club, as was New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Second, the injuries. The Yankees are hoping for better news at some point on Jorge Posada but, as of right now, they believe he may be able to dodge the knife. Posada will see another doctor on Thursday and has refused further comment outside of releasing a statement. Brian Bruney is hoping the same thing but he’s waiting on a third diagnosis after the first two doctors recommended surgery.

A roster move? Yeah, we’ve got one – Chris Britton out, Edwar Ramirez in. A Yankees debut? There’s Chris Stewart behind the dish with Jose Molina getting a day off. And a good human interest story surfaced as well — Harlan Chamberlain is out of the hospital and resting comfortably.

I forgot what it was like to cover a home game in the Bronx. Meanwhile, Phil Hughes could have used a better start than that. You have to wonder what would have happened if he’d gone longer than two innings at Chicago when he was really dealing.

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hc97,

First of al I wasn’t really referring to you about Santana, just those who thought a Santana deal would have been good for this team, sorry for the confusion there.

There really weren’t any pitchers in the Fa market who were available who anyone would consider a “solid” #3 at the time.Also this team is short of quality starters at the upper levels in the minor league system. Marquez has struggled, and Horne is injured. So who does that leave? Karstens? Igawa? Rasner? They are hardly considered solid starting prospects. Those guys are most likely to give you results just as bad if not worse in terms of results. Actually Igawa has several times. So the choices are somewhat limited.

In terms of Small, and Chacon, I think that was a different situation alltogether. That was more of a case where the Yanks just got lucky enough to catch lightning in a bottle. No one expected much from those two at the time as nothing indicated they could produce the results they did at the time.

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saiki: i’m nvr into the santana deal by no means… the melk man is too much to give up as we all know pitching and defense wins ballgames. MY POINT being having 3 unknown to start the rotation is gambling away 60% of our team. Steinbrenners and Cash weren’t fool to think that wang and pettitte are gonna win every game? They dun need santana by any means, but we NEEDED to go after a solid no 3 to win games, moose can be no 4, and the young hughes can start at the no 5. We dun need 3 rookies in the rotation to start (they had prev predicted with joba and IPK sharing times in the rotation). IPK needs to spend more time in the minors, he hasnt spent that much time in our farm.
As for they had good 2007 campaign, i wouldnt necessarily call them good, sure i agree rocket and moose were done last year by aug, i’d call them decent. remember arron small and shamwn chacon?? They did the same thing holding down the fort in 2005, so were they ace caliber? how much were they counted on in 2006?

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Looking ahead at the trade deadline and 09. The rotation is less of an issue than the pen and the hitting. A veteran can signed in the rotation this and CC is available to replace Pettitte. Giambi is the biggest question mark, if he starts hitting and continues playing 1st reasonable, he would keep that spot at the right price next year. Abreu, Sui, and Cabrera could all be gone next year, so either young or new talent could help the hitting. We’re projected to hit 1000 runs last year, despite a slow start, we got mighty close. The bullpen…where to begin, Hawkins is a disaster but he is a 1 year deal. Fuentes is now Colorado’s closer again, so we need to look elsewhere, no Fuentes + Helterskelter deals anytime soon. Farnsworth or no worth will be moving on his bike and cycling to another city. Olendorf is simply not big league ready. Edwar Ramirez, we’ll see/

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Breaking News I just released Ian Kennadia, my head was aching too much from his starts. David Wells is negotiating with me.

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Anyone thinking that getting Santana would have made a difference is just fooling themselves. He has yet to make a difference with the Mets, it’s highly doubtful he would make a difference with this team with its problems.

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hc97,

What did you expect Hughes, and Kennedy to do to distinguish themselves as “aces” their first time in the majors. Win the Cy Young? They both did pretty well considering their lack of experience. Who knows how Hughes would have really done if he hadn’t gone down with that injury last season. He pitched pretty well down the stretch. He actually outpitched Ol’ Man Clemens who couldn’t even answer the bell when it counted most. It wasn’t “luck”, he was very good in that game, and if it weren’t for him the Yanks would have gone home then, and there. As for Kennedy, he also outpitched Mussina, and was exactly what this team needed at that time, as Mussina tanked. With that being said, they deserved the chances they got as starters. In fact this team wouldn’t have made the playoffs last season without them as Clemens was banged up, and Mussina was stinking the place up.

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bdsouth,

Don’t expect to see Horne or Melancon in this rotation any time in the near future. Horne has been out for a while with an injured biceps, and Melancon has struggled (not surprisingly) in the minors this season as he is trying to come back from TJ surgery, and only has 8 career IP in the minors.

Rasner has never shown he could be a #5 starter in his career or even an average starter,period. Maybe he can after showing what he can do in the minors this season so far, but he has never shown that ability at the major league level. I would rather wait to see if he can actually pitch at this level rather than assume such a thing only to wind up being disappointed in the end.

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I’m curious how those stats for the youngsters compare to others… like the Toad or Lilly, or Contreras, or even some of the current guys early on in their careers.

These guys are still young, there’s still time for them to mature… I’m not any happier about it than you all either, but I still believe in them, regardless of whether they need sent down for a spell or not.

What I’m not feeling to good about is believing in the change of the guard at the top. I don’t see much difference in how our offense is “managed” than when Torre was here either like people have said.

I mean for cripes sakes, are Yankee fans going to boo the team because we play some small-ball or will they actually say, FINALLY!?

I don’t understand why we’re so dang apprehensive or downright against stealing some bases. Damon, Abreu, Jeter, A-Rod, Cano and Melky should ALL have the speed to be able to swipe or feign it just to get the pitchers thinking about it. We seem perfectly content to just take a normal lead and wait for the ball to go over the fence or to the wall in the gap. Why in the world would you take that philosophy as it only limits the ways you CAN score, and since we’re not clubbing the ball, uhh, it’s a no-brainer. ;)

Let’s go Pettitte! Come on Offense!

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my bad is 2-9 in 11 total starts.

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bpark: i know joba is great, and i believe he’ll succeed as a starter, but until he proves us he can win games in the rotation, he’s still a question mark. i think having 3 unknowns in a rotation to start a year is just a bad decision by the front office PERIOD. (esp knowing how much u could expect outta an aging inconsistent moose)

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Pettitte has 2 loss and Mussina has 3.

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ok, lemme add one more thing here…

The team record when hughes and kennedy start is 2-11. The team loss column is currently at 14. They have contributed to 79% of our losses to start the season. Yanks should feel VERY lucky that they’re still at .500 today, considering all the injuries and slump thats been going on.

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Kennadia was destined to begin in AAA then they move Joba Daba Doo back to his pen.

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Sorry but here’s my truth, i for one NEVER thought any highly of hughes and kennedy… (now joba is a diff case, he’s a true phenom…) But wut hughes and kennedy did in 2007 were nothing distinguishing themselves as the future aces of our team. Here’s hughes stats for 2007: 5-3, 4.46 ERA in 13 starts, do u guys remember there was a stretch after his D/L when he was being hit around? He got lucky in the ALDS game when he secured the only W against an indians lineup. remember, he didn’t start that game, he came in relief for clemens. Its a different thing to start, esp in a postseason game, he might not been able to handle the pressure situation. As for kennedy, wut can I say he ony had 19 IP in 2007, 1-0 with a 1.89 ERA. Looks very impressive, but if you consider it was a mere 3 starts with 19 innings total, you would think those numbers are still quite meaningless.

There’s a reason the saying that prospects are only suspects until proven otherwise. Its a totally different world out there in the minor league. I say its 6 consecutive starts is enough to tell if hughes and IPK are ready for the big league, which apparently they aren’t. Send them down, give others a chance to contribute. Bring them back again when only they are ready.

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I don’t care about Rocket’s contract with the Stros. We can put him on the DL and he can mentor Hughes. Question is does he want anything to do with us after we hung him out to dry.

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Well NoDigdee, we are 2 games back and we have 5 months to go. I’d hardly say our team is done.

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I hate agreeing with bpark but he’s got a point. And Moose has been mentoring them now?? Is that telling?

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Chazzy, its amazing how well Hughes did last year when Rocket guided him.

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I was all for letting Coach Torre go as I felt his best days were behind him. Like prior posts, Girardi isn’t coaching any better. Who exactly is making the “game-time” decisions? One month into the season and this team is done. This has been a sad decade for our team.
“Rodriguez — in the first year of a 10-year contract that could be worth as much as $300 million — is batting .284 with four home runs and 11 RBIs in 24 games. The disabled list assignment is the fifth of his career and his first with the Yankees” <- We’ll see this for the next 10 years.
“He’s a hard guy to replace, but we have a lot of good players in this organization,” Girardi said. <- I ask, “Who”? Their farm system sucks.

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This really sucks. Yesterday really sucked. At the sad, sad, Ranger game, I try to find out the score of the Yankee game. Little did I know that I wouldn’t want to find out the score. Hughes has got to get going. How many starts did he make last year? Maybe he’s not experienced enough. I know Phil has good stuff because that’s almost all I’ve been hearing since I found out he existed. He and Farnsworth have the same problem. Believe in your stuff!! K, maybe Farnsworth is a different case but whatever.
To top it all off I wake up in the morning and find out A-Rod is on the DL. He hasn’t been jacking them too much lately but he still is a crucial part of the offense. It’s like this huge glob of fear left the lineup. I remember those days were Giambi and A-Rod were like this perfect combo and scared the crap out of pitchers. Then they figured out the over shift on Giambi. But It’s still been good. Opposing pitchers are gonna love this.
The remaining Yankees have to step up. Whether it’s the manager or the hitters or the pitching or the coaches… were in a fight against Murphey’s law. People have to step up there game to fight through this. Who knows how many home runs A-Rod would have hit. The remaining “power” hitters have to step up. I don’t want to single out players…actually there is no need to single out players because almost all of them aren’t hitting.
Petite does this thing where he always steps up after an embarrassing loss. He’s done it a lot in the past. The veteran pitcher on the mound thing might help today.
As for Girardi, he would look a lot better if the Yankees were actually winning. He hasn’t done anything extremely bad or amazingly good. Sometimes he makes mistakes…we all do. But if the Yankee hitters and pitchers delivered, those mistakes would be nothing. The only thing I don’t agree with was not walking Manny and taking away their candy. Everyone needs candy. And the catcher thing yesterday wasn’t that cool I agree. It all depends on whether he caught Hughes in the minors. If he did, then it makes sense. And I don’t know if he did. I don’t even know the guys name.
I have more to say…but this is enough no?

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I have been all for letting Hughes and Kennedy take their lumps but this a bit much. I fear at this point they will lose their confidence and be ruined.

A-Rod is more bad news. Let’s hope we get all of this out of the way and be back to full force come mid May!

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I hope Pettite can live up to his usual stopper ways tonight.

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Chaz,

I don’t know that Johan would be shelled here. He has’t been brilliant but pitchers like him are a rare breed and I’m sure he would have done fairly well even in the AL East.

That being said, not making the trade was without a doubt the right call. 2 top prospects and and one fine CF in return for one starting pitcher who would make 20 times what the 3 players we gave up combined would make is a lousy deal however you skin it.

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Is anyone else experiencing lag so bad on this blog that you can’t even type? It is so annoying to have to type something 11 times to get it to go thru. Gimme back the old format.

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I don’t want that roid freak pedophile anywhere NEAR my baseball team. He’s the worst possible solution to this problem. I hope Roidger likes grabbing his ankles in prison. He’s a peice of crap.

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Let’s not bust out the “woulda, coulda, shoulda” with regard to the Santana trade that never came to pass. The trade would have been stupid and costly (3 top level prospects AND 150 million), Johan is not even blowing away the National League East, so I can assure you with 100% certainty, that he would be getting killed here. Stick with the kids, they will turn it around. Bpark, what’s this “Kennedia” stuff?

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I meant to say about, not anout.

I don’t know about bringing in the Rocket. I believe he has a 10 year personal services contract with the Astros. He will likely be a coach in their system. Also, I wonder if he has lost credibility in the eyes of Hughes and Kennedy. I know he has lost credibility in my eyes.

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Hughes stays? He’s got a 9.00 era and 0 wins; he needs some help! Help he will get at SWB.

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The funny thing anout this is Girardi was a National League Manager of the Year. One would think a guy skilled in managing in the NL would be accoustomed to small ball. I expected a lot of bunts and stolen bases this season. I guess Girardi is managing the way Torre managed him.

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Giambi reached base twice last night and had an rbi, his batting average is higher than Cano’s

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Hughes stays,

Kennadia goes.

Kennadia’s negativity is getting to Hughes. Call the Rocket, we’re good.

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Didn’t hear what the ESPN commentators said about Chamberlain last night, but one thing is for sure, keeping him in the pen next season would be a terrible mistake. If Mussina and Pettitte decide not to come back this team needs to plug Chamberlain into one of those spots in the rotation. IT’s far more important to have shut down starter than a shut down relief pitcher. This team is only hurting Chamberlain’s development as a starter. But the points those commentators bought up last night may be moot as Cashman might not be the G.M. next season.

By matt_saiki@yahoo.com on April 29, 2008 10:57 PM

Basically they were saying he’s pitch 3-4, then bullpen would come in and well you know the rest.

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One last thing,
Girardi was a complete idiot to start a catcher in his Yankee debut while he has a rookie pitcher who is struggling on the mound. What was he thinking? Wasnt’ he a catcher? Girardi is not winning any brownie points with me. Frankly, he makes more or less the exact same moves as Torre does. Down by 2 with 2 runners on and 0 outs? We need a 3 run homer! We’ll see how Tony Pena handles this team once Girardi gets the HOSE.

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I agree with Golf, we need to start using guys based on performance and not reputation. If someone is getting it done, by all means give them a shot at the big stage. What is the worst that can happen, they pitch like Hughes and IPK are throwing? I like BDSouth’s moves. We will completely sour Hughes’ confidence forever if he gets lit up again. He’s not attacking hitters like he did last year. I’m sure he has several 20 game seasons under his belt, but he needs some time to find out why he sucks right now. I think IPK is starting to come around. If you take away the second inning of his last start, he looked pretty damned good. To me, he made inroads in that performance. He retired 11 straight and kept us in the ballgame.

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BPark,
Melky’s name was dangled as trade bait for Johan. And it’s not that Minn didn’t want him, they just wanted more than we were willing to give. At the moment that looks like the right decision on their part.

Hughes won’t make his next start. I agree with arun. He’s had a month so far and has notthing to show for it. The fact is you can’t let a kid like that founder for too long or you could do irrepairable damage costing future $$$ in sports psychologists. He needs to get some good starts under his belt. Kennedy gets probably one more as well. But like I said yesterday, Rasner’s 4-0, .67 era start at SWB is just too much to ignore, ESPECIALLY when you have a starter on the big club with the opposite stats. Let’s face it. If Moose was 0-5 with a 9 era, he’d be gone by now.

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Now losing A Rod and Posada at the same time is something we just don’t need right now. At this point, perhaps Rasner deserves a start. His minor league starts have been fantastic and while that doesn’t always translate to the majors, he should have a shot to show us what he can do.

I was all for letting the kids work through their struggles but a month is a long time and Hughes may need a couple of starts in AAA to work things out. Kennedy deserves at least one more start before any decisions are made.

As bpark once pointed out leaving up here and having their brains beat in start after start can’t be good for their confidence.

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Saiki, I don’t like Igawa myself, but he could be useful against lefties… at the least. Now, I differ with you when it comes to Rasner. Rasner could easily be better than Kennedy in the five-spot. I really don’t know if we could see Alan Horne or Melancon and co. up here so early, but if the Yanks keep this up, they won’t make it to the playoffs. I’ll take a split against the Indians, and the Tigers are no milkshake from McDonald’s, but we need to play better baseball hands down, if not, we’re not going to be a playoff team. So, in order to get some things nailed down and tightened, Cashman needs to sit down with Girardi and co… Assess the situation, analyze and make some moves, Hughes and Kennedy certainly CAN’T keep this up, but if they do, moves need to be made, and with the impatient Steinbrenners, they more than likely will be made. Soon. Especially when Steinbrenner is a Johan fan. We’ll see if Pettitte can keep up his “stopper” ways, although his human side is going to show sooner or later. Kudos to Wang, our ace ( forget the flashy Ks, we don’t need’em when he’s 5-0. ) Giambi’s a nice bench ornament, kind of like an uncontrollable dog that can be let out when the going gets tough, pinch hit homer or two. Cano, I really don’t know. Girardi says he’s having tough luck, hitting into the gloves, we’ll see if that turns around for him. He’s off to a good start with a jacker. Bullpen is surprising us this year, although Ohlendorf is making good friends with Girardi and Eiland. Joba and Mo- Priceless. Hawkins and Farnsworth, well, just blame Cashman.

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With Rasner, and Igawawful replacing Hughes, and Kennedy, all we are going to get is more of the same. Total garbage!! Igawawful has never shown any to ability to pitch at the major league level. Unfortunately, we’ve seen the best of Igawawful,he is what he is a mediocre pitcher who do what he always does blow up at the major league level. Rasner isn’t much different than Igawawful, a mediocre pitcher who hasn’t shown any ability to pitch. These guys barely made it out of ST, and most likely will take this team down with them. How many more chance are the Yanks going to give Igawawful? He will never prove he was worth the price the Yanks paid for him no matter how many chances the Yanks give him. Rasner is the same, he is what he is a mediocre pitcher. Neither of these guys will do much to help this team.

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Why wasn’t Giambi taken out for a PR?

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YANKEES MINOR LEAGUE SCOREBOARD April 29, 2008

Scranton/WB 10
Buffalo (Indians) 4
W: D. Giese (2-0, 1.35); L: M. Ginter (0-4, 7.71); SV: J. Veras (9)
HR: SWB: E. Duncan (3).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_04_29_swbaaa_bufaaa_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Trenton 4
Connecticut (Giants) 1
W: C. Wright (4-1, 2.95); L: R. Ray (2-1, 5.73); SV: M. Gardner (3)
HR: TRE: C. Ehlers (5).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_04_29_treaax_nrwaax_1&t=g_box&did=milb
Augusta (Giants) 3
Charleston 6
W: Z. McAllister (3-1, 1.13); L: O. Odle (1-3, 6.00); SV: J. Ortiz (8)
HR: CHA: B. Laird (2), W. Ibarra (1).
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2008_04_29_augafx_crdafx_1&t=g_box&did=milb
You may also see http://www.yankeesdaily.com for details.

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One more start where these guys don’t manage to go five ATLEAST, and here’s my next move as GM.

Hughes down — Darrel Rasner UP

Kennedy Down– Igawa UP, to bullpen, call Ohlendorf into rotation ( he’s starting anyway, with all of these mishaps. )

Kennedy and Hughes need some seasoning at Triple A. I guess they couldn’t stand the pressure of starting with the big club from the beginning. One more year down there isd what they need. They should definitely use their bad experiences that they’ve endured up here at adjust their game plan accordingly. Let’s see what these guys can do next go-round, although I’m not expecting much. Guys talk about consistency with young pitchers, well these guys have been consistently BAD. Not even ONE good start, Jeeze.

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I can think of 21 million reasons why.

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Why hasn’t Giambi been released or benched yet? He is awful in the field, can’t run and can’t hit. No more upside.

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Hughes’ ERA is exactly 9.00 — 22 innings in 6 starts. Send him down. Kennedy’s at the last chance saloon on thurs.

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Until Hughes, and Kennedy become established successful pitchers who have been around for a while they won’t be getting the close calls.

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Yeah good point, I was kind of curious about the move by Girardi to rest Molina tonight with Hughes on the mound… would’ve hoped that we could use him tonight and let Andy deal with the rook tomorrow. But oh well… :P

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Both Hughes and Kennedy need to grow up and start pitching. I understand growing pains but is either one of these two going to get a single win or at least pitch more than 3-5 innings? These two alone are going to kill this bullpen before the All-Star game.

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Oh yah… I agree with that as well…. That ball to Sheff was right down the middle… should of been punched out but that’s what happens when you have a rookie on that mound with catchers constantly mixed up… I also hope that the YES Network especially Michael Kay knows that Stewart is not an experienced catcher, he’s played in <75 games.

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Oh no doubt, I’m not saying he was doing well or even looking like his normal self… but you can see his frustration at not getting calls on pitches he sees are strikes, and most other people do to!

Ohlendorf putting in a good effort, but I don’t know if we’re going to claw back into this one.

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Missing calls or not Hughes performance was sub-par. I know that there’s going to be “growing pains”, believe me I’m the last person who is saying “WE SHOULD OF TRADED FOR SANTANA!!” but Hughes doesn’t have the same demeanor on the mound as last year… A lot of those home runs were just hittable balls that they got the best of, but I don’t get how he was so brilliant last year (Especially vs the Indians) but can’t do anything this year.

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Ooops I mis-posted in the older blog; belongs here.

Well aside from Hughes’ obvious struggles, the guy isn’t getting any help, did anyone else see that non-strike call to Sheff at 2-2? A touch high on the incoming curve but that movement made it a strike to my naked eye; even Leiter mentioned it on the air… what do people expect him to do if they won’t call a strike a strike? I’d throw the damn thing at the ump’s head next pitch! There’s nothing worse than getting crap calls for balls and strikes.

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Tough lineup for us to judge Hughes against – Granderson is killing us. He’s only been back from injury what 6 games and hit 3HR already. He’ll get my All-star vote.

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