In the two hole

The Yankees have just taken the field here in the Bronx. I must admit, I’m curious to see how Mike Mussina fares tonight — and pretty much all season. You don’t win 250 games by accident but it’s clear he’s pitching in the tail end of his career. On the nights he hits his spots and spins it right, Moose can still win ballgames. When he doesn’t… well, I remember last August in Detroit and Anaheim. It wasn’t pretty.

There is some news this evening as Jorge Posada was scratched from the original lineup with right shoulder stiffness. Apparently Posada felt something on one of his throws to second base last night, but Joe Girardi thinks this could just be a one-day thing. It is quite cold here tonight so you can understand not wanting to exacerbate the injury. Mussina put up a note on his dry-erase board that said: “Yankees vs. Blue Jays at Lambeau Field.”

And now, as Moose warms up to the Scorpions, here’s my unsolicited, uncompensated travel tip. It turns out Blimpie is having a deal where you get a 6-inch sub sandwich, a liter of spring water and a chocolate bar for $3.99. I’m not one to plug things but anything I’d stop for on the way to the ballpark seems like something to pass on to y’all. Every penny counts.

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Yeah I too sometimes wonder where the Yankee hitting patience is that we hear so much about.

Abreu swinging at the first pitch, A-Rod too, Cano as well. Of course I realize sometimes those first pitches are hard to lay off, especially when the pitcher is just trying to get it over for a strike. But when you look at it from the perspective and objective of getting that SP out of the game ASAP, you HAVE to take pitches. Sometimes taking pitches will aid the team as a whole by wearing that fella down or at the least getting his pitch count up and maybe removed on that account solely. Get to the pen!

We seem to go through this odd cycle every so often. I’ll see Bobby work counts all game long (or over several) and then show no plate discipline all of a sudden and swing at the first one down the pipe!

Other than that, I have no issues with our hitting or even lack thereof. The bats will come around… and even have dry(er) spells. It would seem as if Moose wasn’t awful, just not good enough last night… so one could say that allowing 3 earned and 4 total was a ‘quality start’, and I’d be hardpressed to disagree; we only managed two runs and got nothing off their pen. We can lean a little more towards the hitters for last night (or Burnett if you so desire); but I too am not comfortable with Moose in there. He seems to be outguessing himself for all the supposed savvy he has. Doesn’t look like he’s fooling hitters like a Maddux can and does more often than not. I still agree that he can have success, for cripes sake Wakefield is still pitching! But, we have to give him run support and we failed at that.

Good luck to Hughes tonight and GO YANKEES!!

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Farns-no-worth is in the last year of his deal? He’ll be dealt at the deadline if thats the case.

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Wow!! I only had to click on the “sign on” tab twice before I got on, things just might be getting better with this site. As for Mussina, he did pitch pretty tought last night, but what does it say about him as a pitcher if we have have to resort to “ifs” about his performances like last night? He is what he is, nothing more than a #4 or #5 starter. If the weather were much warmer it could have been a different story. I just say it’s a big mistake to have him as a #2 or #3 starter, it come come back to bite the Yanks in the ***.

I’m still not worried about the offense ( at least not yet ). They have gone against two quality pitchers who are capable of holding any team down. It’s only the second game of the season, the Yanks have gotten off to slow starts over the past few seasons, why should this season be any different?

I’m still not sold on Farnsworth!!

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after watching game 2, i can already tell you mike mussina has to go. his fastball hit 86 mph! 86 mph. thats the same speed as my fastball. he is going to kill us in the number 2 spot in the rotation. alan horne needs to get off to a quick start. he has great stuff (95 mph fastball, great curve, former first round pick which he turned down to go to college).

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Well, so much for going undefeated!!!

I guess we can’t win them all. Moose looked pretty good. One out away from a quality start. That is what we need from him.

One critcism I do have is Cano. If he is going to be the best ever (as I have claimed), he sure as hell needs to learn how to TAKE A PITCH. He would hit .400 if he could learn to be patient and not hit whatever crosses the plate. First pitch swinging in the bottom of the ninth? Dude, what if the 0-1 pitch is wild and Jeter scores? Then the 1-1 pitch is a hanger and you crush a 2 run jack to tie it? I would make him take a strike EVERY at-bat until he learned to chill out.

OK, so let’s shoot for 161-1. Sound good?

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I agree that Mussina is in the twilight of his career. I think he would be fine though if he was in the 4 or 5 slot in the rotation pitching against lesser opponents. He does not have it to be a number 2 anymore.

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rcngolf, I wouldn’t worry too much about the Yanks; offense , at least during the regular season. They will score their approx 1,000 runs. Burnett was “nasty” last night, mixing consistent mid-90’s fastballs with 79 – 80 mph curves.

I did find it curious, however, after A-Rod took Burnett deep in the 7th, and the Jays tought in lefty specialist Tallet to face the stacked Giambi, Cano and Matsui that Duncan and Ensberg were not used to PH. Isn’t that why they are on the active Roster, to off set the LHH leaning line-ups vunerabiity to LHP?

And, chesirecat, i wouldn’t be concerned about guests to “throw count down shift” in NYC, there are always some available (Alec Baldwin was at the game; “The Warrior” was at YES televising), and if need be they can always call in some Girl Scout troop, or whatever, from the Bronx.

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Pedro taught Edwar some new tricks over the summer.

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tigerinyc,
The reason the Yanks only left 4 ob is that they DIDNT HIT, again. They are starting the year like they ended ST, with quiet bats.

With few exceptions, I didn’t see the quality abs (Abreu swinging on the first pitch???) that I did the night before. Come on boys, even the Royals are a game up on you!

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It was cold out there last night! Three members of the Giants Superbowl team pulled the lever for the countdown of home games left. I wonder who they are going to have doing that when July and August come around? It would be hard to have a celebrity guest for all the home games.
Farnsworth looked okay last night. I don’t think it makes sense to boo your own players, especially when he hasn’t even messed up this year (yet). I mean I don’t like the guy either, but shouldn’t we try and be supportive? We want him to pitch well.
So this is my third game in a row tonight! (The marathon ends after tonight). Let’s hope the bats wake up tonight. I don’t like that Boston flag being in front of ours.
Go Yanks!

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BTW an unusual aspect of this tightly pitched, frigid night game (aided by 6 DP’s) was that there were less than 10 LOB the whole game… 5 by Jays and only 4 by Yanks (including 2 in the 9th inning).

I’d wager that 4 Yanks LOB will be among lowest half dozen game #’s for the whole season.

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I was at the game tonight (froze my a.. off, but that aside).

Do you realize that Moose was one pitch away from a “quality start”? Had he retired Hill, on an 0-2 count with two outs and teo on in the sixth, he would have gone the requisite 6 inninngs with 3 runs or less to meet the definition. Instead, Hill singled in a 4th run (only 3 ER) on Musisina’s 91st pitch to make his line score look bad.

It was a gutty performance, esp on a night when the game start time temp was 44 degrees F and later as the wind and chill picked up it felt well below freezing. Don’t write Moose off just yet.

Also the 250 game winner, apparently is going out of his way to mentor Hughes and Kennedy.

Burnett was “lights out” until A-Rod got to him in the 7th (on his 93rd pitch); so, even if Moose had left down 3 and Hawkins had not surrendereed his first run as a Yank, it still looks like a 3-2 loss.

Relax, it’s early. The Blue Jays have some great pitching if they can stay healthy (and recall they edged the BoSox in 2006).
Friday should be interesting young gun match up, Hughes vs McGowan.

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Edwar Ramirez is far from being a complete starting pitcher. Heck, he still has yet to develop as a reliever at the ML level. If Ramirez ever becomes a starter, which is highly unlikely, he will need to develop at least one or two more pitches.

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Hey Wade,

Good to hear from you again, it’s been quite a while. I wouldn’t be too worried about the bats yet at this point. True the offense has been in hybernation since late ST, it’s time it woke up, but we should all be used to the fact that this team gets off to slow starts early in the season. Remember last season? The offense at best was very inconsistent. This lineup is made of quality hitters, it will come around, hopefully sooner than later. Lets also not forget they have gone against two quality pitchers. I hope Mussina has a good season too, but I just have too many doubts about him. This is the reason why the Yanks don’t need players the age of Wells or Mussina on the roster.

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I’m not sure I would say just Pettitte. Wang looked pretty good last night. He did beat one of the best in baseball. I’m pretty sure Wang will be good for 15-20 wins. Pettitte will be good for the same. Mussina is questionable, Hughes will be solid. This staff will be okay.

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The bats, ah now we’re talking…we will need close to 1000 runs to reach the playoff with the exception of the Pettitte, most people here over estimate the ability of the other members of the rotation.

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Hey Matt,
I know your not a big Mussina fan. The question I have at this point is not about his pitching ability, but where are the bats? I’m not sold that Mussina can still have productive year, but no one is going to win if they don’t score runs. I hope Mussina has a good year. I was also glad to see he was not named in the Mitchell report. He is a perfect example of what happens to older players. That would also apply to Wells. Whatever happens, he has been a solid pitcher, not a first ballot hall of famer, but I think he will be in there some time.

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This items remaining and the blinking until it loads is annoying. Paul O’Neill can pitch…What about amking Edwar Ramirez a starter?

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God!!!!! I’m still having problems with posting on here!!

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My answer to that question is neither. The team doesn’t need to be constantly going back to the future, and signing broken down old relics like Wells, their are better options in the minors than Karstens so lets not automatically assume that he will be the first option. After the type of ST he had lets pray this team saw what type of pitcher he actually is which is mediocre, and go with better options like Horne or Marquez or Chamberlain depending on what point in the season the Yanks decide to make that change.

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My answer to that question is neither. The team doesn’t need to be constantly going back to the future, and signing broken down old relics like Wells, their are better options in the minors than Karstens so lets not automatically assume that he will be the first option. After the type of ST he had lets pray this team saw what type of pitcher he actually is which is mediocre, and go with better options like Horne or Marquez or Chamberlain depending on what point in the season the Yanks decide to make that change.

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Jose Molina’s current batting average = 1000

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Bryan, they need to give you free food at the park.

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Moose or David Wells, that questions is gonna be asked if Moose doesn’t get it together or we will see the likes of Karstens coming up.

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