A voice from the past
For a reporter, there are few greater panics than when your tape recorder begins to beep and tell you it’s about to be full — especially when you’re in the middle of a major story. So when my recorder decided it’d eaten all the words it could, I went through and cleaned out some of the old files.
The first one I came across (listening just to make sure I didn’t need it anymore) happened to be the gravelly voice of Joe Torre, which spurted out into a marble hallway here at the Rayburn House Office Building on Thursday morning. And as Torre was saying, "In Roger’s case, there’s a lot of things that he deals with on an everyday basis."
Right you are, Mr. T. I don’t recall when the audio recording in question was made, but it had something to do with the litany of injuries Clemens had in his final days of 2007. Yet somehow, as a media pack chased Clemens through this Washington, D.C. building on a winter day in February, it really did seem quite appropriate.
As you probably know, Clemens is back on Capitol Hill meeting with representatives one-on-one — even as Brian McNamee gives hours of sworn testimony just inside Room 2154. Between this and the evidence we’ll soon get a look at, this case really takes on a circus atmosphere more and more.
Bryan Hoch
Uggh sick of Clemens to death now. The next piece of evidence will be a video tape of Clemens and McNamee actually manufacturing steroids and HGH in a lab then injecting each other with a taped written statement that says he is doing steroids. Then he will come out and say the allegations are outrageous and McNamee paid an actor to pretend to be him in the video…Come on. The evidence is there. His longevity is suspect no matter how hard you work out. If you really didn’t do anything, it wouldn’t be taken this far, or to this level. Jeter didn’t do steroids, his name is no where to be found. That is what life is like for an innocent person. He is going to go to jail for 5 years, reputation gone, hall call gone or atleast tarnished. AT THIS POINT THINK ABOUT IT. BONDS AND CLEMENS WILL BE RETIRING IN 2008 pending some dumb team. Everyone is comfortable with Clemens and Bonds standing up there together, proudly enshrined in MLB history as the best in the steroid era? One year they should just select all the best players in the steroid era, NO celebration but give them the credit they did deserve before this non sense by making the plaque. There is no right decision on this, every way you look at it ****.
I heard about some ‘evdience’ that McNamee has with Roger’s DNA on it, I still love Roger and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it’s hard. All I know is I’m ready for baseball. I even miss the Rangers, my sorry home team, that’s bad when I start missing the Rangers, but hey they just hired Nolan Ryan as the team president.
Honestly the “evidence” McNamee is presenting is utter ****. Who the heII keeps syringes and gauze pads covered in blood for seven to eight years? That’s completely ridiculous that this is the incriminating evidence. Did McNamee decide ‘Oh I’m gonna hold onto this stuff because years down the road I’m gonna try and screw over they guy that’s taken great care of me and my children.’ Oh OK I buy that. I’m not saying Roger is innocent and/or didn’t shoot up HGH or steroids but the two things I have a problem with are the unlikeliness of this story and the fact that Roger admitted to shooting up B12 and Litacaine and the needles and gauze pads are from that and the vials could have nothing to do with Roger. It just doesn’t add up to me.
whats more likely…Roger Clemens performing to the age of 44 because of working out. Or tons of speculation, accussations and evidence of syringes. Do you think players that didn’t do steroids worry about this stuff. McNamee was covering his a** in case it came down to this. It doesn’t add up to me that Bonds was obviously guilty and had the stats to prove it. In an era of players doing steroids. For Clemens to be the only one that didn’t and perform the way he did doesn’t add up, hence the reason his close friend and trainer is doing this. He didn’t want to give up Clemens, but they pressured him to. Not because he just made it up to ruin him, but because he was a big name player that DID it. He asks for everyone to wait for all the evidence. I don’t need to wait, to me, a player with a totally clean record like Jeter who is not being accussed, or has any such evidence against is what I want to see throughout the league. The fact Clemens is even in the news is what bothers me the most. If he DIDN’T do it, why would his good friend give him up. Why would Petitte do it. Why has he lasted till 44-45. Why is his name out there. Why does someone have syringes and physical evidence. Reasonable doubt. It is just tooooo obvious that he did something and he is claiming nothing. You look at Bonds and it is the same thing. They all said they didn’t do it, then finally some sort of evidence comes out and they fess up but claim they did it unknowingly. Then the power numbers late in the career makes sense…How is Roger any different. Because he says so? I have heard too many players lie to believe any of them now. If nothing happened, you wouldn’t even be mentioned in these reports like many of clean players.
It seems to me that neither side is telling the whole truth. I just can’t wait for it to be over. I’m so sick of this **** being involved with my game. Baseball players don’t even need to be “buff”. Look at the Babe. He was a drunken lardo, and was a freaking MASHER. I’ll bet he didn’t take any B12 or Lidocaine. Just a beer and a hot dog and he was good.
Several players have had 20 plus year careers without the benefit of roids. Look at Nolan Ryan.
Not a real surprise neither side is telling the whole truth. IF Clemens did he might as well hang himself right now ’cause his legacy would be destroyed.
The fact that Roger did it or didn’t isn’t the point I’m making, the point is shooting up an athlete is illegal as well. Why would you keep in a box somewhere evidence of you illegal actions AND try and screw over your best friend. McNamee would have to predict all this to happen seven to eight years before all this happened. I don’t believe the syringes are physical evidence, I don’t believe that they will prove anything. And if nothing happened you woudn’t be mentioned? Thats not completely true, people have been accusing players right or wrong since the report was in it’s infant stages, Varitek for example. Also Mitchell’s credibility is also questionable because he named names without having explored all options, and left out names like McGwire. I can’t believe any of this it’s a huge he said she said mess, the steroid era of baseball is directly the commissioner’s fault for turning a blind eye and to punish players is ridiculous because it benefits players that are not clean and were not using the suppliers Mitchell targeted. I’m so sick of steroids lets get ready for Spring Training and lets be more positive. Clemins isn’t a Yankee anymore. Let’s worry more about knocking off the Red Sox and how ludicrous it is that ESPN is actually talking about the Sox being a dynasty. Thats a joke 2 in 4 a dynasty, lets see they rattle off 2 in a row let alone 3 before we call them a dynasty.
I hope the SOB goes to jail. Him and Bonds can be cellmates. At least then they could continue to give each other “injections”. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I think McNamee is a liar, he’s trying to keep himself out of jail. Who in their right mind would hold on to evidence that would incriminate him in the future. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Or even giving the benefit of the doubt. I agree Mitchell should be investigated to find out the scope of just how large an area he covered in his investigation (How many teams)
To me it appears now that the Yankees are the only one under investigation………..
Back to B A S E B A L L…..
I hear Tino is a guest instructor, He’s is now working with Duncan, What a great idea!!
I also heard that the Braves probably will not resign TEX.
Is the Bedard deal complete? If not why not make a better offer to O’s, He’d make a great addition…
“”GO YANKEES”"
Schilling may be out for the year…So now the sox will have to use Lester and Bulckolz…it will be a rookie showdown….could not have happen any better than that…
What has happened to Shilling?
If true his career is over. It will be our younguns against theirs.
“GO YANKEES”
The ‘story’ is ridiculous. Regardless of whether Roger Clemens actually used HGH or Steroids; this story has absolutely no credibility.
Even if you have Clemens’ DNA and some sort of illegal substance all on or contained therein in a syringe or needle, the chain of custody is not yet known and therefore is questionable; it would not be admitted as evidence or at least could only be stated as evidence that McNamee was injecting Roger with something?
And come on really people… like my Dr. would take or give me anything with a needle and not dispose of it properly? So now I’m supposed to believe that McNamee had reason to believe 5, 6 or 7 years ago that he needed to hold onto to a needle? Why if you’re not trying to protect your own butt? Why would anyone, trainer, Dr. or otherwise, hold onto something that is really a bio danger for any reason other than; I am doing illegal stuff and I may pay a price for it someday, better keep my feather’s numbered? Even that is ridiculous.
Sorry folks, but until there is REAL evidence, Roger is only guilty of hearsay… wow! So many people for so many reasons want to jump all over this because hey, it might be true, that they don’t even bother to look at the logical-ness of the scenario being painted.
Like the Ya-hoo above already purporting Clemens as guilty as Bonds. What real proof do you have? I’m sure the investigators are looking for it too because so far, all you’ve got is he-said.
Most of us here have already been over how silly it is to base an opinion on that alone, looks like this one missed the party.
This McNamee guy doesn’t exactly shape up to be a stellar citizen, but no one cares about his integrity or anything else, just the information he’ll dish to keep out of jail… (the **** with his penchant for lying).
Bring on the Pitchers and Catchers already!
Jeremy, You sound like an attorney, I whole heartedly agree with you. This McNamee guy doesn’t have any integrity, He, McNamee is making every attempt to keep himself out of jail.
Bring on Valetines day when the the pitchers & catchers will show. Waiting for the magic words “PLAY BALL”
“GO YANKEES”
Jeremy,you are the ya-hoo. Just because both sides are crooks doesn’t make the **** spilling from the other side’s piehole somehow more credible. If Clemens was so innocent, why did it take him so long to come forward and speak publically? Every single move he has made since the report has been, contrived, staged, and painfully “lawyered”. And don’t get me started about b12 and lidocaine. Does he think I am stupid? Who gets b12 injections? I can get 400% of my daily allowance of b vitamins by mixing in an energy drink. Since when do you need viamins to be injected? How about taking a Centrum, Roidger? And, since when do you take injections from anyone but a doctor? Is a trainer qualified to do anything besides tape ankles, massage, and monitor workouts? The answer to that question is empahitically NO!
I suppose it’s a-holes like you that perpetuate the steroid problem in sport anyway. I mean, what does it matter, right? As long as you get to see 500 ft. homeruns, and guys throwing 100mph on 2 days rest it’s all good right? Do yourself a favor and wake the **** up. Innocent until proven guilty? That works in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, Roidger is FINISHED! We’ll see what happens, until then I am entitled to my opinion about this matter, so if you don’t like it, smoke my pole, freaking lawyer!
McNamee is a “trainer” not a doctor. Clemens had no business taking injections from ANYONE besides a physician. Lord knows, the only people getting within 50 feet of me with a hypodermic better have a PHD firmly planted next to their name.
Let’s see what lidocaine is used for by REAL doctors:
Lidocaine is used topically to relieve itching, burning and pain from skin inflammations, injected as a dental anesthetic, and in minor surgery.
So, what was Roidger doing using this **** on his joints? Do his knees have teeth?
This Clemens vs McNamee feud is being blown out of proportion. It’s simply become politics and lawyer talk. Since when are we talking laws and taking sides on a baseball blog? Anyway. In my opinion, Clemens isn’t who he is today because of some booze. 7 Cy’s, 354 Ws and 1.54 ERA 3 years ago don’t come easy. I’m not saying that he’s an angel and would NEVER take anabolics/steroids, I’m just saying that until I hear or see some infringing evidence from McNamee’s side, I just don’t see this ending. The government and the feds will be on Clemens’ case for years, and soon it’ll fade into the wind, along with McNamee… that’s how I see it ( exact same thing that happened with Bonds, the only thing is he admitted to actually taking the substance and saying he didn’t know about it, which, anyway you put it, souns phony ). It could also be the exact opposite and Clemens was a juicer all along. The point is, let’s stop dissing eachother, neither the Rocket or McNamee care, nor will they ever care, so let’s not waste our breath. Let’s talk baseball.
That last sentence was spot on bdsouth.
I honestly couldn’t care less about this whole thing. Clemens won’t come back next year, that’s all I need to know. We wasted over 20mil on that guy last season including luxury tax.
Hall of Fame voting time (coz he will make the ballot regardless, look at Canesco et all) this will be a key discussion, and 5 years of investigation will hopefully clear this up to some degree.
But for now, we should move forward with the steriod scandal by increasing testing. If someone cheats now, get him.
Tino Returns…
It’s great to see that the Yankees have brought back Tino Martinez to work in the Yankee Organization in a number of various roles.
He’s already in Tampa working with Shelley Duncan at first base, and will continue as a special instructor throughout the Spring. Then when the season starts, Tino will work in the Yankee front-office as a consultant to GM Brian Cashman.
In an article in the NY Daily News [reported by Anthony McCarron - Feb. 7, 2008] Tino said, “I’ve wanted to learn the front-office part of the business for a long time, and I want to learn as much as I can from Brian Cashman. I’ll be working with Cashman all season, and want to learn the whole overall system”…
Martinez went on to say, “This is a great opportunity, and a great role. I’ll do whatever Brian wants me to do, and go wherever he needs me”.
McCarron also reported, “At times, Martinez’s job will be part evaluation, part instruction. Tino, also, envisions perhaps getting sent to watch a rising minor-leaguer for a few days to see if the player is ready for a call-up”.
Tino Martinez has the full support of Brian Cashman, and Manager Joe Girardi. Hopefully, as time goes on, Tino will become as valuable an adviser to the Yankee Organization, as long-time special advisers Gene Michael and Reggie Jackson have been throughout the years!
Welcome Home, Tino!
Jimmy27NYY
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Jimmy, That was great, Watching Kate Smith singing “GOD BLESS AMERICA” It brings back many memories. Thanks
“GO YANKEES”
McNamee use to be a cop so although his keeping things for several years seems creepy to us , its evidence to him . Don’t forget there were already rumblings about a potential PED investigation in 2000-2001 and thats when this supposed evidence is from. It was stated if there was an investigation, McNamee knew Clemens would deny everything so McNamee was in self preservation mode and filed his evidence away until needed
Yikes! Chaz, lol it’s me Knute! I had to change my email addy.
Sorry if I was on my soapbox, I certainly don’t ‘believe’ or ‘think’ that Roger is completely innocent, but by the same token, all I was trying to convey was that having a needle doesn’t really prove much and doesn’t exactly make the holder of said evidence look so good either. Kind of like Linda Tripp; there’s an agenda involved.
I guess the part that gets my goad is regardless of whom the PED’s ended up with, the investigation is still going after the users not the pushers. That makes so little sense to me. Sure, get the guys that used, that tainted the fairness of sport; I’m all for it. But by that same dang token, the people pushing and supplying should be sought just as much. So, why is it that McNamee’s plea-bargain only goes after players or am I supposed to believe that McNamee manufactured this stuff too?
I just can’t stand how it’s all about the players, what about the people peddling this stuff in the first place? I thought the point of the investigation was to ascertain information as to when it started, how widespread it was and how the players were supplied. We seem to have a heaping helping of 1 and 2, but nadda for #3. It was already well known if not “confirmed” by some supposed authentic source that MLB had a steroid problem so getting a list of players who used or can be accused of using is about as useful as having Bud Selig as the Commish.
I just don’t like the way this whole thing has played out with all the above stated points. As I’ve said before, it makes little difference in naming names now; you can’t compile a complete list and to compile one and ‘out’ that handful of people while knowing that another handful (or more in the case of MLB as a whole) was not named but can be reasonably suspected is not altogether realistic much-less fair.
Sorry if I sound like a lawyer, I do know how to debate… but my point is simply to provide contrasts and arguments for both sides.
Like Indigo said, as a former popo, possibly a smart-move by McNamee if considered nuts by us. But that goes to show that he knew well and good he was into some shady-ness. Now who can really say if Roger actually ‘knew’ what he was injected with was this or that? You’re taking a leap of faith there and it can be reasonably argued that he never had that knowledge even if McNamee actually DID! That’s why the whole thing is pointless. Unless you’ve got some signed-sealed and delivered videotape with Roger’s acknowledgement and subsequent injection; he has a defense. Until McNamee’s side can prove otherwise, flailing away. Now that’s not to say I think that’s right of Roger if that is the case, but hey, it’s every man for himself right now, correct? McNamee is trying to save his butt, criminal that he is; while Roger, abuse that he may be, is only going to do the same. So in that type of ‘fight’, fair is fair is fair and to that end, Roger has things going his way currently.
I think the media is drooling over this thing becoming a circus, It will sell their stuff. As for McNamee keeping bio-****: nothing like holding on to that for 7 years just in case you need to stab the guy, whose been paying your bills, in the back. I guess this is the Year Of The Rat…
Oh and by the way, fabulous news to hear Tino is in the mix… he’s always been a fave of mine!
Hey Bryan your on ESPN|!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3235936&categoryId=2521705&n8pe6c=2
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Hi, fjr69,
Thanks for checking out my Blog…I’m happy you enjoyed watching the video [on my blog] of Kate Smith signing “God Bless America”…
It was a very dramatic and inspiring moment [in time] when she stepped out on the ice at the 1974 Stanley Cup…Imagine her feeling that day, being all alone in the middle of the ice, as she was greeted by that tremendous ovation ! It gave me cills of joy!
Thank God for Kate Smith! She passed away in 1986, but was [and, will always be] a National Treasure!
Jimmy27NYY
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LOL, Knute?***** it! Why didn’t you say it was you in the first place? Now I feel like a jerk. What’s the big idea calling me a ya-hoo?
I guess we can agree to disagree on this. I think McNamee is a crook, and Clemens is hiding something. Either way, I will be glad when it’s all over.
On to something that matters:
Congrats to The Organization for not bowing to corporate pressure and naming the new yard “General Motors Field” or something completely stupid like that. I would have been sewered to the new yard if it wasn’t anything but “Yankee Stadium”. It sounds like this new park is going to be AWESOME.
Already planning my trip to the park for May 5th! Bringing my Dad (New Rochelle native) and my son. By then it will be about baseball and not Mitchell, McNamee or Clemens or anyone!!
It will be my first (and last) trip to the Stadium.
Yeah, chaz!
Great news for all Yankees fans [and Baseball fans] !!! The “New” Yankee Stadium will still be called “Yankee Stadium”!!!
And, its even more special that the New Yankee Stadium letters are in “GOLD” …
The New York Yankees are the “GOLD STANDARD” of all Baseball and Sports franchises!…
Another thought…
There would be a major backlash against any corporation that did have “the nerve” to put its name on the front of Yankee Stadium, or even worse yet, remove the name “Yankee” completely from the front of the building!…
Maybe the Mets [and other teams] can get away with this practice, but I pray to God that there will always be Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, and Wrigley Field as the official names of these historic ballparks of the Yankees, Red Sox, and Cubs!!!
I would think, William A. Shea is turning over in his grave, since the Mets re-named “Shea Stadium” – “Citi Field” !
I mean, do the Mets really need the money that badly to insult this man, who helped bring the Mets to New York as an expansion team in 1962.
I wonder if the Mets are going to name the parking lot after Mr. Shea, since that will be the former site of “Shea Stadium” !!!
Jimmy27NYY
http://baseballtheyankeesandlife.mlblogs.com/
I couldn’t agree more It is and shall forever be Yankee Stadium It is a hallowed name, Known throughout the world, It should never be called by any other name.
Another day closer, Let’s talk about Baseball & The Yankees and forgo all this other C*** thats been out there.
“GO YANKEES”
HA HA HA HA, I heard about Curt Shiling’s ‘shoulder’ problems and that he might be out until the all-star break or even out the whole year.***** that’s the best news I heard all freakin week! I mean the Red Sox have Beckett, Dice-K, but after that they have to rely on Tim Wakefield(Doesn’t he have a membership to the AARP?), and two rooks in Lester and Buchholz. I’m not saying they are going to terrible but at least they have a few issues with their rotation, just like our Yankees do.
So yeah. None of the steroids talk makes sense. My point is, players who we know almost as a fact that did not do steroids (Jeter for example) are not mentioned EVER. You have accusations, physical evidence..etc. You get called to court. Why, after nearly all players during this steroid era who have been accused and have denied it and then found to have used it, would I believe Roger is innocent? And, if Mcnamee did keep the needles, it would be to save his own *** in case he got caught (like he did now) to stay out of jail if the situation arose. They were best friends but sometimes best friends don’t tell each other things and that is straight out of the horses mouth..Clemens stating he had no idea Petitte did steroids and recieved them from his other best friend Mcnamee….COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP! Forget all that….The new Yankee stadium and its new features are so awesome! I was so upset with the announcement at first but now it is going to be legit.
Oh and that news about Pedro Martinez being at some ‘**** fight’ in the DR was strange but I think it happened a few years ago, Pedro should be suspended for the entire year, just kidding, or maybe he should have to clean up chicken coops for a year, I’d pay money to see that.
FYI Jeremy….apparently you have no read the news for the last several months. But this guy, I think his name is Mitchell, he did some report or something, I don’t think it was popular or got much attention but apparently, and this just from what I have gathered..but someone with a lot more knowledge then you formed a report and stands by that report that Clemens did steroids. If I am a Yah-oo…what does that make you haha, an insanely ignorant? I’m just playing around but the evidence is that he is even involved. I will use your own argument against him. WHY ON EARTH would his best friend rat him out for no reason and then make up fake evidence against him??? Did major league baseball say..Hmm petitte knoblauch..we got those guys, let’s see we would like to just make up fake accusations about roger clemens, a future hall of famer and ruin baseball. That sounds good, let’s do that. Oh no evidence? Just make it up Brian! That will hold up in court. Am I the only one who sees how ridiculous that is. If clemens is not in the report and he is really innocent, then that makes their report stronger because there will be NO denial. Instead of going to court, this would be done.
Chaz my new friend, it’s cool, just a misunderstanding!
Yanks2003j2s… fair enough, like I said, it’s not that I’m taking Roger’s part or McNamee’s.
If the guy’s guilty then prove it, you, McNamee, the Investigators, etc.
It was a nice li’l dig and I’m big enough to take it, but let me get this straight…
McNamee has been under the thumb of the “law” for how long now?
Now, it just seems to me that in a criminal case, there is a thing called discovery. In this “discovery” phase, all evidence on both sides must be presented and ‘provided’ to the other side.
Now, maybe I am a li’l behind the curve and this IS discovery for this case. Doesn’t really seem like it though does it? I mean I’ll give you that having some physical evidence in the form of guaze pads and needles, etc. doesn’t exactly make a compelling case for Roger; but on the other hand, this isn’t about the court of Public Opinion; this is an actual court where the accused has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
As the case is laid out so far; there is still reasonable doubt, at least in my mind. This ‘evidence’ has been held onto (seemingly) for quite some time. Why?
It seems to me that if I was say, charged with a crime that was not readily and apparent that I was totally guilty; the judge would be very suspicious of the prosecution bringing in evidence at this time after it’s had how long to depose the witness?
All I was trying to say and please excuse me for taking a personal shot, that wasn’t very nice of me; but the point is simple; this does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did anything illegal and knowingly so. I’m just looking at it from his attorney’s point of view.
McNamee’s attorney’s are totally playing the name/blame game without solid physical evidence of the actual act supposedly committed by both. We already know this is his plea-bargain, so they’ve got him already.
Doesn’t it seem odd that the prosecution is ****-bent on some MLB player and not the people the McNamee, Radomski or Grimsley got their supply from?
I haven’t heard much in the Grimsley case yet, but from what I do recall, Grimsley has stated, NO MLB NAMES, period, so he seems to be saying, I’ll tell you how I got and from whom to the extent that I am aware but I will not rat on the people in my profession.
So, am I to believe that McNamee only supplied Knobby, Petttitte and Clemens?
Point was simply to say, it’s ridiculous in my eyes to smear one or two guys when you know full well a boatload of guys aren’t getting smeared and not knowing exactly whom they were doesn’t make it fair if say, one of them gets voted to the HOF because he simply wasn’t outted, which could be due to a plethora of reasons, ranging from the committee of Mitchell and company simply didn’t sniff in the right areas, or praytell the police couldn’t levy charges against some people even if they have suspicion.
Now you can say, so we shouldn’t prosecute anyone?
And I’d say, not necessarily. They didn’t seem too quick to prosecute on criminal charges, only on possible perjury charges. WHY?!
Could it be that embarrassment is what some are after? Why would you bother with this if you weren’t looking to prosecute criminal activity, especially given that it’s both illegal and soiling one of our great past-times?
McNamee’s lawyers aren’t looking to get McNamee off, they’re trying to lock in that plea-bargain. So, I’m sorry but I just think it’s uncredible as it stands.
Do I believe Roger used? I’d say it’s highly likely. But, even though I feel that way, I also feel that justice should be blind and it doesn’t appear to be the case here. It sure as **** seems to be, we can keep this guy out of the HOF and maybe just maybe have him slapped with some perjury charges. I have not seen anyone state they plan to pursue criminal charges of possession of an illegal substance. Has this been conveyed?
I apologize to everyone, it was not my intent to beat the horse on this, I have been trying to just let this circus play out and keep the focus on our upcoming season… but sometimes I get pulled in and I was just making a point from what I’ve seen provided as ‘evidence’ in this case. And it does irk me that the focus continues to be on the Yankees, like players on our team are the only ones guilty.
Hey Chaz,
You’d let someone with a PHD in Computer Science give you injections? I’d trust someone with an MD or RN over a PHD. In all seriousness, steroids, you do them or you don’t do them, you suffer the consequences. If you’re proven guilty, you suffer the consequences. If not, you shouldn’t be chastised.
Let’s all face 2 facts:
1- Everyone from the fans, trainers, owners, and players dismissed steroids for simply way too long. We’re all guilty. I would like to definitely move along and create a new and even more exciting baseball atmoshpere.
2- Roger Clemens is one of the best pitchers in history who worked out harder than just about anyone and has the stats to prove it. Thanks,
Additionally, i’m looking for some really intense Fantasy baseball. I’ve done it once (last year), but it was a flop when our ‘commissioner’ decided to attend graduate school half way through the year
If you need an extra, gimme a buzz @ Yanksrox@gmail.com
Go Yankees,
Yankrox, I would agree with that. We did all have something to do with the steroid epidemic in baseball. The fans included. We just kept watching the homeruns, and loving every minute of it. I guess it’s better late than never, though. I can’t see something like this ever happening again. I can’t wait to watch the game and not wonder if what I’m seeing is true “fair play”. GO YANKEES!!!!
I decided to sign up this year for fantasy baseball. We’ll see how it all turns out. I just went with the free one offered by mlb.com, considering how I’ve never done it before. I’d hate to pay for my team and then lose my butt!
Jeremy a.k.a Knute,
I think there is a strong difference between a “court of law”, and the “court of public opinion”. I don’t see very many people that are watching a criminal case unravel that don’t have an opinion on whether the persons involved are guilty or innocent. It’s human nature to draw conclusions.
Sentinel,
What do you think about Joba, Hughes, and Kennedy this season? Are you excited to see them in the rotation? Where do you come out on who should play first base? Who are you hoping to see in the bullpen this year? How do you think the Yankees will finish? Wildcard? Division Champs? AL Champs? World Series Champs?
I’m not, Matt. As you can see, my post to him is all HIGH road.
Well, the AL East has certainly become a three team race– maybe still just a battle between the Yanks and Sox, but I think the Blue Jays could sneak up on us this year. Meanwhile, the M’s have added an ace in Erik Bedard, alongside King Felix Hernandez ( who’s about 22-23 ). These could be two aces in one rotation if they manage to stay healthy all season. On the other end, the Mets have definitely become a Playoff contender ( an understatment, but that collapse…. ) with Santana on top. Then you got Pedro, Maine, Perez and El Duque to round it out. If their bullpen can hold up, the rotation remains healthy, and the offense produces as its usual self, you’ll see the Mets in the World Series next year. The NL won’t be able to handle that rotation. The AL is what’s more of a toss-up. I really can’t guess who will make it to the grand stand, I hope it’s the Yanks, but everything has to go as planned. The pitchers have to pitch as expected, and that bullpen has to show us that an infusion of veteran dependabilty and young enthusiasm go together well. The offense will always be there, I hope the blown lead aren’t, though. Other than that, I say that it’s a race between the Yanks, Red Sox, Angels, and White Sox.
Dark Horses:
Mariners
Blue Jays
Rays?
Additions to AL playoff contenders:
Indians
Tigers
How could I forget these two pains in the ssa.
I agree bdsouth, in regards to the Jays. If the Yanks pitching doesn’t come through this season then I just don’t see them competing with the Jays and their staff, and the ***. The Jays are definitely a team that could surprise a lot of people. The M’s adding Bedard was a huge upgrade for them, but I’m still not impressed by their offense.
Ah, discussion about baseball and NOT roids. Almost back to normal.