Clemens out for regular season

Roger Clemens has been scratched and will not pitch for the remainder of the regular season, though he insists he will be ready for the playoffs. Kei Igawa will pitch tonight instead.

As you’d expect, this is more cautiousness regarding his left hamstring. It’s been a rough month for Clemens, who has battled ligament damage in his pitching elbow, blisters on his right foot and now the strained hamstring. He threw off a mound yesterday in Tampa and played catch with Darrell Rasner but called Brian Cashman in the second inning of Monday’s game and said that it wasn’t feeling right.

As Clemens is fond of saying, he’s asking his body to be 25 at age 45, and it’s pushing back quite a bit. The Yankees’ plan now is to have Clemens throw a simulated game at some point and basically hope he can make an appearance in the ALDS.

More details to come.

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Lets face it, this is one of those junk in the garbage games. Why even consider Clemens to pitch, Postseason is 1000 times more important than this trash. Just hope he has enough gas for the run!

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Hopefully Bruney and Ramirez have worked their ways off the post-season roster

Ramirez, last 8 innings, 11 er

And Karstens is god-awful

Yankees not winning the AL East will come down to one thign-TB-REd Sox win these games (and ones were there down by 7)-Yankees lost them

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This is true, it seems like even casual baseball fans stop and marvel when Joba comes into the game. Which reminds me I need to order my “Joba Rules” T-shirt.

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I think he’s better than Farnsworth, even on a good day for Farny. Farnsworth has the power, but Joba has power AND he’s an artist. When Joba comes in, I bring up gameday and watch the game live because his location is so amazing.

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Hey Karstens, Britton, Bruney and the other slugs….I Hear there is a semi-pro fast pitch softball league forming in Hoboken. Join now I’ll drive you there.

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Joba’s days as a starter may be numbered. He’s lights out, and even if he did start, it wouldn’t matter much if he got pulled after 6 or 7 because it’s question mark until Rivera. He’s like what Farnsworth would be if he could repeat his good outings.

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Kennedy, and Hughes are starters, they need to keep them as starters which means they can’t be used as relievers in between their starts

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that was in response to the Villone conversation

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Re: the Rays bullpen – only the Yanks could have the highest scoring offense and not do anything with the worst bullpen in the league. Just like they had to be the ones to stop the Mariners’ losing streak on Labor Day.

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At least then I could have been asleep before 11. Britton the Hut is horrible. He already has a few slices down!

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Exactly, but Torre and the Yankees are lucky Chris Britton didn’t give up a homer to Gomes.

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coach,

That’s one of the reason Clemens won’t be coming back next season, he’s just too fragile physically so you can’t rely on him to last a whole season, plus he is no more than a 6 inning pitcher.

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Agreed – this loss was ridiculous – not only was the bullpen pitching a joke, but who was making the decision on who to bring in – some random dude in the stands??? Torre was playing this game like it’s April. And, to make matters worse – the joke that is the Rays bullpen actually looked good!!

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Veras maybe if they can get him to be more consistent. I still think they should have Kennedy and Hughes in there. If both are projected to be starters next year, then they need to start learning to pitch in October sometime.

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I wouldn’t even trust Villone, two appearances don’t mean anything, but then again that really says something about this pathetic bullpen.

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Screw this!!! Joe Torre wants to play around and wait. He got what he deserved an L! Why don’t you throw the hotdog vendor while you are at it. You stink! A bunch of garbage. He has the horses and won’t use them. You over managing piece of ….. You should start a new foundation…The Safe at Homerun Foundation. Because you should have managed to win tonight not hope for the best. While I am at it…heck with Clemens as well. You make 28million and are 500 years old. So what if you blow out your hammy and/or elbow. You are 500 years old. We needed you tonight. Jeff Karstens should go wax his eyebrows. Tonight we got to see some of the greatest pitchers to ever pitch a softball game. I am so pissed right now! If I was Arod, I would personally go up and smack those rubber arm pieces of chicken excriment. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Play to win Joe not to see which s@#thead will pitch if you are down by 10 runs in a playoff game! Bruney and Karstens are Tee Ball Pitchers!

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Janie,

We went over that earlier today, but feel free to make any suggestions about this sorry bullpen, but remember keep it clean, there may be children reading this.

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Note to Brian Cashman: in the offseason GET SOME MIDDLE RELIEF!!!!!

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I’ve been impressed with Villone….over his last two appearences….that’s the best I can think of, janie.

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I think it has now become apparent why Karstens wasn’t the starter in this game, and doesn’t have the ability to be a starter or a reliever at this level. Thanks Karstens, thanks bullpen you really screwed the Yanks tonight. The way this ‘pen is pitching may even become more doubtful. When that homerun left the park the Yanks chances at the division may have gone with it. Once again Karstens. do everyone a favor, and stay away from the mound!!

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Joe was doing a great job managing this team in September until tonight. There was no reason to take Igawa out right then, there was no reason to use Farnsworth in the eighth (we’re lucky we went as it did) or Veras in the ninth or Karstens in the tenth. Karstens is clearly not cut out for late relief. This was a stupid game to lose.

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Well at least we know who WON’T be making the post-season roster……

Is anyone else a little worried about the bullpen in Oct? I mean, Joba and Mo can be counted on – and usually Vizcaino – but there’s not ONE other you’d give the ball to without a 10-run lead!!!!!

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Okay, so who wants to be Brian Bruney in the clubhouse tonight? He owes everyone dinner… and a division title. =(

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I don’t even know what to say…..I don’t remember Rivera pitching last night….why did he not come in…..I’m absolutely lost for words…….

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Thanks for nothing, Torre. 3 pitches.

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Gee – couldn’t have predicted that!!!!!

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Hey Jeff……..throw a strike!!

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oh now our hearts shouldnt be racing vaz? comon! regardless how well igawa pitched, going to the bullpen was a mistake torre!!!! *** is he thinking? dur dee dur!!!! let him go until he gets into some trouble ya ****! then go to someone else who doesnt ****! oh thats right, joba, and umm, cough the greatest cough cough closer is all we have in th pen. im sure we all agree, this pen needs a major *** over haul. i think i just looked into my life insurance policy and left a message to my agent to up the amount. should we not all be concerned? i think so!!!

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Yes, Yanks’ magic number is one so all they have to do is win tonight.

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Yes – if they win they clinch. However, it doesn’t seem like Torre really wants to win this game – Karstens is coming in?!?!?! Hello?!?!?!

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since detroit and boston won, if we win do we make it? the Yanks better clinch before thursday becasue i have a extended weekend upstate to go to and i want to see them clinch a spot and show all the newscasters and people and newspaper writers who didn’t believe in them before that anythings possible.

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Good to see you still have your sense of humor, Falc. Hehe.

Looks like Karstens is warming up for the bottom of the 10th.

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By the way… does anyone else think it’s kinda funny the Rays have a pitcher named Balfour? as in.. Ball Four? I kinda chuckle when I see him out there.

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Okay, I just exhaled. They need some runs… NOW.

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UPton should be pissed.

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That last pitch called outside was a pitch that jerk umpire called all night.

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Jose Veras over 8ERA… Joe really does not want to win. Shut it down tonight and rest everyone afterwards. Put Joba or Mo out there. Give us a chance. This guy might walk the winning run in.

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HEY! I can dream! =D

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No such thing as an “easy” win with this ‘pen, even when being sarcastic.

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Now we have Jose Veras. I guess Torre is looking to defend and hope to not lose the game as opposed to shutting down the Rays. Great.

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Ugh, bottom 9th still tied. Anyone outside of Rivera, Chamberlain or Vizcaino and my heart rate is on overdrive. So much for the elusive “easy” win.

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Who pitches the ninth?

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Reyes in Devil Rays lose!

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I can’t believe my eyes, Farnsy actually got through an inning without an incident!!! OH JOY!!!!!
Could this be a sign?

Just thought of a nickname for the Yankee bullpen:

Dynamite!!

Not because it’s so good, but becaue it keeps freakin’ blowing up late in games. LOL!!!

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Boston won so still if we win 2.0 games behind. Go Yanks!!!!!

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Farnsworthless actually did something good???????????

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The Yanks need to get runs here. We do not need to extend this game. Especially with the bullpen issues.

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Here we go again!!!The sorry bullpen blew up again, and once again blew a lead, what a surprise. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!. Like I said this bullpen is absolute garbage outside of Vizcaino, Chamberlain, and Rivera. This is really getting to be a serious problem.

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geez andrew, lighten up, we were only making a point. That being, the Yanks should be in first with that lineup. Didn’t REALLY mean by 20.
You have a point with Igawa, but why go to the minor leaguers?

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That double play that Posada hit into in the 1st inning really stings now.

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That DP that Posada hit into in the 1st inning really stings now.

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edwards,
You are really showing your ignorance. Igawa was at 87 pitches. Torre made the right move because when Igawa starts to falter in a game, he does it fast. Taking him out was the right decision.

By the way I think you guys are overestimating the numbers, even though I know it was intentional. Edwards if we were 20 up on Boston we would have won 122 games thus far. I don’t buy it. mrfalc, your estimate is a little high as well. At 14 out we would have only won 78 thus far. Better than 122, but still not close.

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Britton doesn’t use arm angles to trick batters. They see his stomach jiggle and lose the ball. :)

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Slim pickings out there tonight. This bullpen brigade looks mighty sloppy of late, with the exception of Chamberlain and Rivera. I just can’t name a whole lot of people I expect to throw zeroes up in the sixth and seventh innings.

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Jeez – At least Ohlendorf has some decent numbers. Henn blows, as does Britton. Whoever said him and Bruney need to open up a sandwich shop is spot on.

Villone is not doing himself any favors by walking someone on 4 pitches.

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Did you guys see who is warming up??? Henn and Britton! One is a southpaw who can’t throw a strike and the other guy ate five hotdogs in the bullpen before warming up. Thanks goodness. I was hoping to get my money’s worth tonight. This just became a 4hr game. PS- was it me or was that pitch to Matsui 2ft off the plate?

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If he leaves him in for six, then goes to the guys he can count on, Yanks would clinch. Why even bring these guys back up just because their minor league season is over??
They already proved they can’t pitch in bigs.

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This bullpen stinks. You can not rely only on Joba abd Mo. Someone needs to step up. Some of these guys should be pitching in Bangladesh!

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I must admit Kei Igawa pitched okay. I do not know why Torre takes him out. Here is a guy not on the playoff roster. So what if he throws over 100 pitches. What are you saving his arm for? Dumb, dumb, dumb…

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If the Yankees didn’t have Joe Torre, they might still be 14 games out. Kei Igawa was on a good run, but it’s been a while since he’s pitched a full game.

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5 IP 0 RUNS 2 HITS
Playoff clincher.

So, Joe of course takes him out.

If the Yanks had a real manager they’d be 20 games ahead.

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After Friday’s game, and then this performance tonight. I think we may have just seen the last pitch by Brian Bruney as a Yankee. How could you trust him again?

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Bruney s@#ks! He and Britton need to open up a sandwich shop in NJ. Those fat jerks can throw hard but are terrible! Bruney was pissed when he got sent down earlier in the season. They need to Designate Him For Assignment or in his case Designate Himself For Assignment!! Bruney stinks….

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You gotta be kidding me, Bruney! Well one less name to consider if we go to the playoffs.

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vater,

First of all, blowing $25 million on a minor league pitcher (which is all he has been most of this season) is a waste. It’s not just the amount of money being wasted on him, but the fact the Yanks are stuck with him for 4 years. They got him as a starter not to be areliever in a knee-jerk reaction to the Suks acquisition of Dice-K. The fact that he can’t start at the major league level is another reason he isn’t worth the money. Like I have said he has been up, and down between the majors, and minors, and he has yet to show improvement even after re-working his mechanics. The Yanks even tried to dump him on the Padres. He has pitched o.k. so far, but like his minor league stats would indicate he has been pitching better than Clippard in the minors, plus the fact that neither Clippard, Karstens or Wright have shown they can pitch at the major league level either, they have all been just as bad as him. So that’s why he is pitching instead of the others.

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Igawa may have thrown four scoreless innings up there but that doesn’t mean they were pretty. His command is still off. Torre said that Igawa had been pitching well of late (in the minors) and that they could survive a bad start because of their strength in September numbers. That’s why they had Bruney and Karstens throwing double-barrel duty there.

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Bryan,
Can you offer any insight into Joe’s decision to start Igawa. I’m not complaining considering his pitching is passable and he seems to be getting some support, just curious why he’d take Igawa over Clippard or Karstens.

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Agreed, but since we have no control over it, it does us no good to get our hearts racing. Really all I’m saying is that Igawa’s bad starts were mostly during a stretch of time that all of the Yankees starts were bad and none of the Yankees were hitting (aside from Jeter, A-Rod, and Posada, although even A-Rod slumped a bit in May). Do I want Igawa on the mound right now? No. Am I happy to see him give up two singles and a walk in the third? No. But with few options, it’s what we had to do. I’d rather have Clemens in the postseason than have him hurt himself against the Devil Rays today, and I think we can all agree on that. I must admit, as I said, that I’m perplexed about Igawa getting the nod over Clippard, but I think there must be a reason that we’re not aware of. And, as unhappy as I was to see Igawa’s name on Yankees.com as a pose to Clemens, he just worked out of that bases loaded jam in the third.

He’s pitch count is high, and he clearly still has a lot to learn, but at the beginning of the ’08 season, if he’s still in our bullpen, I’ll be happy that he got a little experience playing in a game that matters, even if (knock on wood) he falls apart. It’s all about the silver lining.

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2 quick notes….got playoff tickets today….Row B Bleachers for game 1 of ALDS 60 bucks for 2…game 2 of ALCS, bleachers 130 bucks for 2….granted its the bleachers, but its better than paying out the butt for tix on Ebay….and second, how the **** do the Mets fans listen to Keith Hernandez on a daily basis…i would be pulling out my hair…all the announcers also look like their being held hostage…fyi…haha

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thanks jill. im glad someone picked up on the sarcasism. vater, im glad he is pitching well and i agree w/ the others you have listed. they learned from it and im sure igawa will to. however, with alot at stake at this point of the season, we all know they cant afford a let down whatsoever. particularly having poor pitching at this point of the season is why i think some of us are high strung.

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And take that A-Rod haters. You all know what I’m talking about.

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Oh come on, he is not pitching that badly at all. It’s the top of three now and he just induced a double play. Why can’t Yankee fans chill out? You’re all way too high strung. Moose, Pettitte, Clemens, even Wang have had worse beginnings to a game than this.

……plus A-Rod’s up with the bases loaded and no outs.

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Jeez – at the end of 1 inning, I’m already having palpitations with Igawa. I might be with naptown on insurance coverage.

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They should start every count 2-0 and 3-1…because that is where he gets to every batter. I knew Japan would get back at us for The Backstreet Boys…

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I can predict Igawa’s line today. 2innings pitched, 5 hits, 5 BB, three wild pitches, and three hours. His strike to ball ratio is like my cholesterol, BAD.

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AHHHH! Kei Igawa!! I thought that show was cancelled. He is the worst. Igawa is Japanese for “I Stink.”

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Igawa had one excellent game.. a game against Boston in which Karstens got hit on the leg on the veyr first pitch – remember that? Igawa came in and pitched 6 shutout innings

we’ll see how aggressive and efficient he’ll be today

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okay, i made a call to my insurance agent about my tv and since i saw igawa goo goo on the hill 2nite i wanted to make sure i was covered. any sign of trouble and torre better pull him ASAP. i want him to do well like any other pitcher we have but HOLY CRAPOLA. I may have to launch another tv set tonight in either of the following events: igawa pitches wonderfully and in mere excitement i some how break the tv or igawa ***** the sweat off a dead man’s balls so badly that I literally launch it for real this time!

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C’mon people, these are STILL the Devil Dogs! We are the freakin Yankees!! Even though we were sleep walking yesterday, We know whats on the line and want to wrap up the WC tonite. One game at a time.Patience at the plate(no first pitch swinging like yesterday)Grindin it out is what got us here. As far as the shakey pen,the only choice is to mix and match. I think the bats come out big tonite!GO YANKS!!!

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I think the problem is the catcher shold give the signs in Japanese,Just a thought!!

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I know Japanese baseball is not comparable to tha majors, matt. But can you think of a reason why Torre would start Igawa over Clippard? I can’t, except that he’s been in pressure situations in Japan, as I already said. While the American minor leagues are comparable as far as quality of play to Japan, it would not surprise me if the pressure situations in Japan were more intense than in the minors by a long shot. Therefore, with the Yankees trying to clinch today, that’s the only reason I can think of (aside from his numbers in his one decent start against Tampa) to start Igawa. Clippard is far more deserving as far as numbers go.

So, if you know for sure that we’ve seen everything we have to offer, and that we’ve essentially wasted 25 million on Igawa, then why is he starting? Do you know something the coaching staff doesn’t? Do you think Torre is unaware of Igawa’s numbers or Clippard’s availability? No. They know way more than us.

I’m sick of fans presuming to know everything long before the fact. On the contrary, the Yankees organization made it very clear before the season started that Igawa would be a work in progress and was nothing to gloat about. I’ve seen him pitch well in starts and in relief this year, and we’ve seen him pitch badly as well. If the Yankees are trying to clinch today, they must have a reason that we don’t know for choosing an apparently sub-par starter when better ones are available.

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From Igawawful to DeSalvo, that’s like going badto worse. OOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

I’m trying to think positive!!

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Should be another fun game to watch.Balls flying over the fence both teams!!

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with the 40-man roster, Torre could just bring in DeSalvo if Igawa gets in trouble.. i’m also counting on the offense to give lots of run-padding also

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Jill,

I hear what you’re saying, I’m trying to think positively myself, it’s just this team needs a solid start from a starter. i’m getting sick of this team running out all these mediocre pitchers putting the outcome in doubt. Save your voice Jill, you’re going to need it before the night’s out.

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Maybe Joe saw some electric stuff in Igawa wokk outs!!

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Matt — Not disagreeing with you, but I am hoping for the best by thinking positively. That being said, I may be cursing at my TV in about an hour’s time too.

Go Yanks!

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Igawawful? God help us!!!!!!! If Torre keeps a short leash on Igawawful, who will he use to replace him? As we have seen in the past Toronto series, most of the bullpen is garbage. So the results will probably be the same, lousy. Igawawful, hasn’t shown any improvement since the Yanks sent him down the first time this season. Don’t be surprised if Igawawful doesn’t get past the fifth inning.

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First of all, pitching in Japan is different from pitching in the major leagues. Japanese baseball is more comparable to minor league ball. So despite the numbers Igawa posted in Japan, it’ still not good news. Lets not forget the Yanks sent him back down to the minors to overhaul his mechanics, and ever since then he has posted nothing but mediocre numbers at the major league level, and has been up, and down betwwen the majors, and the minors. My point is that we have already seen Igawa’s best. Just because he had one decent start against Tampa way back in July doesn’t change that fact, there’s no guarantee he will repeat that performance. This team better have it’s bats ready tonight, and Torre better have a short leash. this team can’t keep playing catch up with its opponents every day.

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I like that idea. If Clemens can’t pitch I’d rather piece together nine innings than let Igawa give up 7 runs in two innings or something.

Honestly, I don’t understand the decision to start him though. All I can think of is that the fact that he’s faced the Devil Rays and done decently already as golf said. I’d prefer Clippard or even Karstens. ****, I’m not sure I’d take Igawa over DeSalvo at this point.

I guess the only other reason I can see is that he’s been in high pressure situations before, such as a potential clinching game. Minor League players are brought up through the system sort of being told that none of it matters until you get to the bigs. Not that they’re actually old that, but that’s sort of the attitude; you’re there to impress the right people. Maybe they think Igawa is more capable of handling a high pressure situation. If we’re lucky, maybe he’ll do well and it’ll be a catalyst for us to see the “real” Igawa in the postseason or during this run at the Sox.

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Maybe Torre will have him on a short leash, and have the rookies all ready to go to pitch an inning or two…. why not get DeSalvo, Wright, etc. out for an inning or two to throw off the DRays hitters?

Also Crawford is shut down for the season, I think. Now Upton, Young and Pena are still around, but that takes at least one major threat out of the lineup.

Trying to be positive as tough as it may be given the news.

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Darth Vader: Luke, I am your father

Luke: NOOOOOOO!!!!

Bryan Hoch: Igawa’s starting today

Fans: NOOOOOOO!!!!

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Golf, I said the same thing about Igawa on the last blog entry. He will be a better pitcher than he has been. I think that this still puts winning the last 6 games in serious jeopardy.

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Kei Igawa? NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Well, at least this will make this game “interesting”. Kei’s got a chance to help clinch our spot in the playoffs.

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Ok. There’s a positive.
NYY: RHP Kei Igawa (2-3, 6.75 ERA)

In his last start against the Devil Rays on July 21, Igawa gave up two runs on seven hits in a no-decision, a game the Yankees eventually won, 7-3.

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Oh joy…… This is JUST what we need…… Well, I’m happy to give Igawa a chance. Looking at his season’s numbers, it doens’t bode well for sure. He’s had 13 games and 11 starts and only 5 decisions to show. Hopefully we’ll find the bats tonight. You have to figure, given his numbers in Japan that he’s a MUCH better pitcher than he’s shown so far.

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